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Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/22/2013 2:52 AM

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I need to run a Motor with Eurotherm drive with the input from a PT100 temperature sensor (temperature high means motor runs faster, temp low means motor can run slow). Can the PT100 be connected directly onto the drive or would I need some other instrument in between the sensor and drive?

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/23/2013 1:02 AM

You need pt100 with 0 to 10v output.

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/23/2013 12:52 PM

I don't know much about a Eurotherm drive, but if I were controlling motor speed based on an input temperature, there would typically be a transmitter connected to the actual Pt100 (or Pt1000) sensor, that would convert raw signal into a temperature value, then the temperature value would be transmitted out on a 4-20mA (MOSBUS RTU) line to a PLC, and the PLC would in turn control the VFD that turns up or down the motor speed. If, however, you want to avoid the PLC, check with the OEM of the motor controller (VFD?), and see if there is an input for a direct temperature sensor, if they need a 4-20 mA input, etc.

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/24/2013 11:02 AM

Unless the drive has a P+I controller you need a standalone controller. You can get one for less than $500. PT100 goes into controller, controller sends a 4 - 20 mA signal to drive as the demand signal. Motor speed may not be proportional to temperature. The controller will ensure the motor speed is where it needs to be. Euro therm make a cheap controller

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/24/2013 12:49 PM

The drive will have a PID loop control function built in, but if you do not know what that means, you are going to need more assistance in setting this up than we can give you here.

But you also cannot simply hook up the RTD as a direct input device, you will need a "signal conditioner" that can convert the temperature value from the RTD feedback into either a current (4-20ma) or voltage (0-10VDC) proportional analog signal that will then be connected to the analog input of the VFD as the Process Variable of the PID control loop.There are some very inexpensive signal conditioners out there, but you will also need to address whether or not the VFD needs it to be isolated, self powered, loop powered, whether you can adjust the offset and gain internally or need to scale it in the signal conditioner, etc. etc. etc. Again, if you don't know what this all means, then that's another sign that you need to turn this over to someone who does. You cannot learn all this via the internet in any reasonable amount of time.

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/24/2013 5:53 PM

If, ALL you want is increase/decrease the speed of the motor, without setting a target temperature to maintain, then:

1) You need a signal conditioner to convert the PT100 resistance value, to a 0 to 10V signal, covering the temperature range you expect to deal with.

2) all VFD drives will have an Analogue input, 0 to 10V, where the signal can be directed to.

3) You need to configure the VFD (Inverter), to get the frequency source from the Analogue input. Also, the maximum and minimum frequencies your motor should keep within range (very important here).

IF you want to achieve a target temperature to maintain, then the problem will be different, as you will need to use a PID input, if the inverter you are using is equipped with one). You still need the signal conditioner as above. The setting of this type of control will need to be done by an experienced person or at least you need to read a lot of info for the particular equipment you have. Also, you will need to experiment your settings safely, and go through a learning curve as you will fail many times before you get it right!

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/24/2013 7:36 PM

Is that the AC drive or DC drive? What model?

Closed loop speed control with tachometer gives the tightest speed control.

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02/24/2013 9:30 PM

This control loop is controlling temperature not speed. temperature control usually has a fairly high gain with very little integral. The control system does not care what the motor speed is. Feedback will be temperature not speed.

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Re: Eurotherm Drive with PT100 Input

02/25/2013 11:25 AM

I miss read the OP.

You are correct, it appears he is trying t6o regulate temperature.

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