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Extruded Aluminum Supplier

04/27/2013 11:38 PM

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I am working on a clean room project, where 3 clean rooms share common walls. Like a 70' X 100' box, divided in 4 rooms 25' X 70'.

The airflow has to be laminar. meaning the air has a down flow pattern from the HEPA filter boxes in the ceiling.

The rooms will have some over pressure to keep the dust out and have also filters above the floor in the walls.

The problem is the filters in the 3 common walls that have to be mounted in a duct, central and also serving as basis for the walls.

The walls are panels in alu profiles of 6 X 6 cm. These have to sit on top of a vertically placed rectangular pipe of minimal 8" High X e.g. 3' wide and 1/8" wall thickness.

I am trying to find an existing extruded alu box (rectangular) profile, with reinforced partitions inside, where we can mount the filter holders in )vertically).

I have checked many places, but come not even close to finding something suitable.

Any hints? Preferably a supplier in the US.

Much appreciated

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04/28/2013 12:44 AM

That is very hard to visualize. Some sketches could help immensely.

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04/28/2013 2:46 PM

Hi Tornado,

This is about the best I can for now. I don't have the right gear to produce something better, only a piece of paper and a camera.

The preference goes to rectangular box profile (pipe) as smooth as possible on the outside. On top of this comes the prefab wall.

Thanks for the reply. D

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04/28/2013 10:36 PM

Try searching "Aluminum Architectural Profiles" and you will likely come across companies like http://www.sapagroup.com/en/na/profiles/ who run square and rectangular tube up to a maximum circular dia of 8.5". Good luck.

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04/28/2013 11:37 PM

They certainly can make it. Thanks for the link. I asked for a quote now.

However, I will "only" need about 400 Feet. G.A.

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04/29/2013 5:11 AM

There are structural profiles that we sometimes use in machine building made by a company named ITEM. Try their profile 8 light range. There are heights of 160, 200 & 240mm and widths of 40, 80, 120, & 160mm. There is also an aluminium capping that can be applied to any unused external slots to eliminate dirt traps. It is a very comprehensive range and your whole clean room could be constructed using just their profiles, including plastic beading profiles to mount the glass panels. They have several distributors in the US.Further details on line.

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04/30/2013 12:00 AM

Thank you.

I am interested in the lowest rectangular profile (pipe) as base to put the wall on. but also to serve as duct for the return air (escape - exhaust) at the bottom.

I worked a lot with ITEM in Europe, but they are very technical and architectural and do not deal with simple things as far as I checked online now.

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04/30/2013 12:12 AM

Square and rectangular sections are not usually called pipes; square or rectangular tubes instead. Even the latter terms seem to be giving way to HSS = hollow structural shapes/sections. These other terms might help in Web searches.

I will check my usual supplier's Web site http://www.alascop.com/ to see what they normally stock, hoping that something useful will turn up.

2.5 x 3.5 x 0.218*
3 x 4 x 0.190, 0.250
3 x 5 x 0.188
3 x 6 x 0.188, 0.250*
4 x 6 x 0.250*
4 x 8 x 0.250

Usually in sharp corners, but * available with radius corners.

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04/30/2013 1:07 AM

Thank you so much. Especially for the correct item name. G.A.

This is problematic when different from the native tongue. The sizes, you have found I came by also, even in .125 wall, except the 4 X 8, which is the only one high enough. But with .250 wall this will be a very expensive solution, also to cut the holes out for the filters. I wonder if maybe an extrusion for 500 Feet will be economic? The advantage is that we can "model' and reinforce it a little. Rgds. D

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04/29/2013 8:52 AM

D,

Have you looked at 80/20 ?

http://www.8020.net/

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04/29/2013 9:32 AM

Misumi sells Hepa units with mounting to extrusion. Might be worth a look even if just for ideas.

http://us.misumi-vona.com/vona2/detail/110302268820/?KWSearch=hepa

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04/30/2013 12:12 AM

Interesting stuff for the rest of the room. Tks

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04/29/2013 5:52 PM

Talk to refrigeration walk in box rooms supplier. Properly assembled they are air tight. They have 4-6" insulated walls. You can have either aluminum or stainless cladding. The manufacturer can custom design the whole assembly. It is very easy to install anything you wish, as the cladding is very thin.They could probably make the openings you require. If you have some equipment weight problems the supplier can assist in suppling reinforcement for the box ceiling.

I have done this a the University of Toronto.

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04/30/2013 12:08 AM

Hi, Icarus

I worked with these panels before. Here however I need no thermal isolation, but a duct between two rooms at the bottom of the floor wherein the Flat Hepa filters must be surface mounted. It is the lowest box profile that I am looking for. Tks

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04/30/2013 9:04 AM

I have built clean rooms, incubators, etc. The main reason I used refrigeration boxes was not for the insulation, but for the flexibility of my supplier to make what ever I needed. The foam insulation just added rigidity to the structure, not to mention total temperature control. A stainless steel interior is a plus for a clean room.

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04/30/2013 1:17 AM

Could you consider two 2 x 8 x 0.125 laid back to back, with some holes in the adjoining webs to allow better lengthwise air flow?

Besides extrusion, coiled sheet could be roll-formed and welded into long pieces. I have no idea about the set-up economics for this, though.

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04/30/2013 1:33 AM

As you see on the sketch: on top is a 6 cm profile (almost square) that can be used as top of the box joint - screws and glue or caulking. Two C channels of 2 X 8 can be put

together open side towards each other too. I guess this might save us time to assemble. The floor base is hardwood, so in the openings for the filters we can screw it all in place. Of course, best would be a rectangular tube. Thanks for thinking with me.

It is incredible: when you type in something, how the Chinese dominate the net with best places. I am looking now on Thomas net.

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05/01/2013 10:17 PM

Hi All,

I found a supplier in Florida.

EMS - eastern metal supply.

These guys carry the most extensive stock I ever met.

Thank you all for your help.

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05/01/2013 10:28 PM

What configuration did you ultimately settle on?

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05/01/2013 10:40 PM

3 X 10 X 0,125

I asked for a sample, because I still need to test the load capacity and deformation of the longest side. If it is too weak, I will go for 0.166 thickness. However, the price is about to double for the latter. D

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