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Ungrounded 12,470V System - Requirements

05/02/2013 1:25 PM

I am working on a project that has a GSU transformer that is 480V delta to 12,470V ungrounded wye. This project is in the United States. NEC 250.20(c) states that systems over 1 kV shall be permitted to be grounded.

Is there a requirement to ground my medium votlage system?

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Re: Ungrounded 12,470V system - Requirements

05/02/2013 1:27 PM

What does the code say? Local code, too.

What is the location?

Are you a licensed electrical contractor, licensed in the local in which you are now working????

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05/02/2013 1:31 PM

Both of my codes says it is permitted to be grounded, but I could not locate anything that said it "HAD" to be grounded. I don't like that it is not grounded because of the transient overvoltages associated with it. I really want to ground it but with no code the client won't do it.

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05/02/2013 1:33 PM

Then your next call should be to the local permitting/inspection agency to ask them.

Requirements vary from town to town, county to county and state to state.

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Re: Ungrounded 12,470V system - Requirements

05/02/2013 1:34 PM

Thanks - will do.

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05/02/2013 3:26 PM

Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ).

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Re: Ungrounded 12,470V system - Requirements

05/02/2013 5:42 PM

Thanks.

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Re: Ungrounded 12,470V System - Requirements

05/02/2013 2:04 PM

If the 12,470V will be connected to the local utility's system, they may have something to say also. Check with their protection engineer.

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Re: Ungrounded 12,470V System - Requirements

05/02/2013 7:23 PM

I can't see why you have a problem with earthing the neutral point.

You don't say the size of this transformer or its intended use. A NER would be the usual option for MV but with no information it's just guess work.

This smacks of homework.

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05/03/2013 10:45 AM

I can't earth the neutral point because the service is solidly grounded with induction disk relays (no directional ground fault detection) and the standby generators are grounded through a 200A impedance. The original design was to never island now they want to island.

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05/03/2013 11:43 AM

"...The original design was to never island now they want to island...", all bets are now off. This is a radical departure from the original design and requires a new complete system study, including a review of the existing system and coordination with the local utility.

This is not a simple "handbook engineering" exercise; personnel and equipment safety are at issue, as well as code compliance and insurability. Hire a competent electrical power engineer who has done this type of thing before.

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05/03/2013 1:17 PM

Tell them they can't do it! Then quit.

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05/14/2013 11:40 PM

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