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2-wire Proximity Switch Power

08/15/2013 5:01 PM

Dear All,

We are using ABB DCS IT 800xA where DI(digital input) card has only +24 Vdc return from field and -ve is looped from the cluster -ve of power supply. My question is that when we use 2-wire inductive proximity switch npn type Normally open in such environment and we just take +24 Vdc return to indicate the DI at the card when proximity senses some metal then from where we energize the circuit i.e. inductor and transistor. I understand that they need +ve and -ve for their energize while in field we only have +24 Vdc return whenever proximity makes and detects some metals. I hope that you understand my question though I could not explain well. In short I only want to know that how we energize the inductor and transistor with +ve and -ve supplies in npn NO inductive type proximity switch.

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Re: 2-wire proximity switch power

08/15/2013 5:27 PM

If you don't know how to hook it up, CALL THE SUPPLIER!

LOOK AT THE SCHEMATIC. Get a 15 year old kid off the street. Hire an engineer, or at least someone who is competent with electronics.

Your questions all indicate someone with no knowledge of electronics, who either doesn't have the skill to find the correct answer, or is not inclined to do their own work.

All 29 of your comments have been to ask someone here to do your work for you.

Where to Find ABB AC800M Manual - Control.com

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Re: 2-wire proximity switch power

08/15/2013 6:27 PM

It must be hot there today...lol.

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08/15/2013 7:29 PM

109.5°F at the moment.

But, really, this yahoo would be irritating if I were in the Arctic.

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Re: 2-wire proximity switch power

08/17/2013 7:53 AM

http://www.abb.com/product/seitp334/4f9f2db009eb1593c1256ecc006ea0ac.aspx

http://www.abb.com/search.aspx?q=S800%20I%2FO%20SOE

i believe that is quite close - (i still haven't realized at this point WTH the S800 is)

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Re: 2-wire proximity switch power

08/15/2013 10:23 PM

You are correct, you did not explain your problem very well. From the sparse valid information you provided I could search for the users manual of a ABB DCS IT input card but that should be your job. I have no idea at all what type of proximity switch you have. You might have a switch and controller electronics package that is simply not going to work with an interface circuit. Lots of very bright people have ordered the wrong parts. I do not understand why you think that you have only two nodes to work with. You have at least three; signal, +24V, 24V RTN.

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Re: 2-wire Proximity Switch Power

08/17/2013 12:55 AM

You just need to use 24 VDC power for inductive NPN two wire proximity which u have used for ABB card

u r using -ve as common use the same common for NPN two wire inductive proximity blue cable and connect proximity black cable to ABB digital input card

at the time of inductive proximity enrgise state it will became NC from NO stat and u will get input. +ve at ABB digital input card

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Re: 2-wire Proximity Switch Power

08/17/2013 6:54 PM

Your cards and sensors are simply not compatible, most European IO cards are expecting positive voltage input as 1, they are common ve-, npn type sensors are trying to connect IO cards to ve- when activated. So you need to change your sensors to pnp type or pure dry contact type, otherwise you will need to add a converting relay for each such kind of inputs, wire the coil to ve+ and ouptput of proximity switch, then you have freedom to use contacts of that relay. Change IO cards to negative input cards is another option, if you have a big bunch of sensors already installed. Profibus IO cards like Beckhoff offered that kind of solutions, they have both positive input cards or negative input cards and they can be hooked to European CPUs most of the time.

npn sensors are compatible to Japan or American IO cards, like Mitsubishi, AB.

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08/25/2013 9:28 AM

Don't really understand your question...

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