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Need Help from Engineers Who are Familar with Molding and Tooling

09/12/2013 11:50 PM

Could you do us a favor ? Below poster A which will be launched at our K 2013 Booth --- Any Grammar error or graphic advice would be welcome . We plan to use 6 posters, thank you in advanc .
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09/12/2013 11:58 PM

NO!

A casual glance reveals many errors, and I have no desire to correct these errors for you.

Hire an interpretor, or translator and pay them.

My dealings with Chinese vendors has been dismal!

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09/13/2013 9:06 AM

My dealings with Chinese vendors has been dismal!

I agree! We purchased 2 CNC flame cutters at around ,total, 220K US$. The set up people who came out did not know how to run the machines. They would not respond to simple questions but get into arguments among themselves shouting to each other in Chinese then give answers that had no meaning or made any sense. They were very unprofessional. In the end we scrapped these barly used machines. I recieved a PTZ camera and when i attempted to load the shftware it would not load and everything was in Chinese. Our company now has a strict policy in dealing with Chinese.

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09/13/2013 10:59 AM

Almost as bad as Microsoft then?
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09/13/2013 11:47 AM

but with Microsoft, they call that a standard.

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09/13/2013 1:06 AM

它会就好了

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09/13/2013 1:55 AM

What is TPE? write in full.

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09/13/2013 2:20 AM

Thermoplastic elastomer.

Assume PC is polycarbonate.

Fact is, OP is asking us to do their homework, for free.

I am not a fan of helping foreign companies who are competing with Americans trying to survive against their cheap, untrained labor force.

I realize this is an international forum, but non-American companies should not ask us to proof read their work. If they cannot stand on their own merits, why should I help them take business away from my neighbors?

Is there no one in your country who speaks proper English?

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09/13/2013 6:07 AM

I agree, especially when we have our own untrained labor force............. :/

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09/13/2013 6:34 AM

The English is ok, it's pretty obvious what capability/process you are illustrating.
All the criticism strikes me as rather unfair. You ask for a favour. If people don't want to oblige, the courteous thing is to simply decline and ignore your post.

I'm sure the US has absolutely no investments in China and has no desire to exploit the growing Chinese market. (That is English sarcasm)

The business dealings I've had with China (injection mold tooling via a 3rd party) have been very satisfactory, as the effort was made to ensure suitable quality controls/specifications/trials etc. Technical dealing with any foreign country is down to having good, well trained local representatives.
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(Anyhow, what do a bunch of Americans know about good English? They don't speak it proper like what I do.
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BTW. The advice to hire a translator is fatuous! Often a translator won't have either the specific technical expertise to do a good job or the intimate colloquial knowledge of the laguage in question form an engineering viewpoint.

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09/13/2013 8:07 AM

I have to agree with you there Del, Also the service that I have received are benchmark material to strive for.

(Anyhow, what do a bunch of Americans know about good English?

WE Americans are working on that to change that...... just as soon as we can get 95% of the world to stop using the metric system and start using the English system units of measurements......

And for a Cat, your comment of :

"The advice to hire a translator is fatuous! Often a translator won't have either the specific technical expertise to do a good job or the intimate colloquial knowledge of the laguage in question form an engineering viewpoint."

is spot on.......

I have worked with China as well as Vietnam and others what some American may look down on........ the service I experienced is impeccable.

Having to decipher the Japanese to English translated manual of a FANUC controls.

The original poster showed us an example of what they had, and you had a nice reply.

Remember, the United States is turning into an even more arrogant bunch of snobs...... bet you didn't think that was possible did you? but that's just my opinion....... btw, like a typical I had to look up fatuous, you also right on that one.......

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an arrogant, sarcastic, pseudo superior American.

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09/13/2013 7:18 AM

This poster is correct. There are no grammatical errors.

What its problem is...it is unfocused. It has no "message". And it feels subtly wrong. What would fix this would be a line of text saying "This is what we do and this is HOW we do it!" That is the message which is missing.

Perhaps a different message might work better. For instance....here are three alternates. I am sure you can supply others.

1. This is how we make your product better.

2. The quality of our products is high, and this is why.

3. Quality control ensured by injection moulding right over the attachment points

The existing text is good, but you provided too much information. So I will look at the existing text.

Just a simple line stating "moulding is done onto the screws" instead of "put the screws into the moulds". You gave instructions, not information. The person reading this poster needs information, not instruction. This is not an "instructional" poster, but rather a sales poster which tells a potential buyer why he should buy your product. This poster simply tells the potential buyer how he can make his own product!

If you want more information, or assistance, I will happily tell you, just post the revised poster here, and I will comment on it.

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09/13/2013 8:10 AM

Yes, the poster is somewhat disconnected, no flow or central theme to draw you eyes to..... should have more of a detailed description may help.

Don't ask me, about what wording...... you should ask a Cat.

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09/13/2013 10:44 AM

the spelling is correct, I'm not sure I'd call those "sheets", they look more like rails or legs to me. a sheet is usually something flat and fairly large, like a sheet of plywood.

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