Washington Post Got Got

No newspaper ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of its readers. The only thing missing is a picture of a space alien standing behind Barack Obama with one of its hand-like appendages resting on Obama's shoulder.

The smell of desperation will soon overtake the CO2 concentrations.

The earth is refusing to cooperate...and it sucks.

Maybe they should pray for continued warming.

Rattling their crystal balls again.....

Suffering from heat fractures.

The question that people should be asking themselves, is this...

Since the models have proven wrong, and warming has stalled, why isn't the AGW crowd happy about it?

They told us that warming was going to kill all of us. They should be ecstatic about an end to the warming; but instead, they are angry.

We've now talked about AGW to the point of choking us all.

For people that don't believe that it's the basis of a political agenda, we should run an analysis on their solution...global cap and trade, and how much it reduces CO2.

Problem is... there is still warming. There is no "stall" which of course, is why the AGW crowd is not happy.

Up wellings of bad water off western coasts are destroying fishing industries because the water is just enough warmer to melt the methane snow on the bottom.

The arguements have never been about the warming. Just complaints about what is causing it. If people are NOT causing it, we can't do anything about it. If people ARE causing it, we have a chance.

Will it be a serious problem? Well, maybe. I personally don't like smoke in my lungs, so I am against coal plants. Does this have anything to do with global warming? Well, I would vote for an initiative to get rid of a coal generating plant, and don't really care if the greenies (of which clearly I am one because I don't like smoke in my lungs.) call it a reduction in global warming or not.

We are the little guys and we have small arguements. The big arguements can be made by the big guys. I can tell this for nuthin though.... if there is money to be made by putting smoke in my lungs, the big guys will do it. If there is money to be made by shutting down coal plants, the big guys will do it. All we got is a vote once every four years. Don't waste it.

Maybe simplistic, but I still believe in what the ice core samples show, over anything. It's been a pretty steady rhythm over thousands of years, and if that rhythm continues as it has, we are nearing the end of a natural warming period, and will be entering another cold period within the next 100 years or so.

It's shame that the AGW crowd were so quick to take the computer models and immediately look for ways to profit from them. The earth may be still warming, but people like Al Gore have ruined the scientific aspect of it.

Natural occurances can have an effect on where fish go, but I think drag netting is the primary culprit behind the global fish declines. They kill everything in their path.

We have the technology to run very clean coal plants here; the soot you're breathing is drifting to North America, from China.

Um... no. The stuff I am breathing is coming from the States. It has fallen off remarkably last few years because of the rusting of your industrial core. Hey...when people get re-employed in Pittsburg and Buffalo, we will again suffer.

But that being said, most of the twenty one thousand Canadians a year killed by air pollution are killed by traffic fumes by this estimate. Since the US is ten times our population, you can estimate two hundred and twenty thousand killed by air pollution alone. Eight Billion Dollars per year draining our health care system purely because we HAVE to drive to freaking work!

I will say that again....in case it has not sunk in to fans of the Hemmings Motor Blog... TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND US Citizens die every year from exposure to fumes due to traffic. This does not count the eighty-nine people PER DAY just in traffic accidents. But that's an off topic stat. Let's stick to smoke.

Does this not make you furious...does it make me a greenie... well, I hope so!

You are right... we have the technology to make clean coal plants, and steel mills. We just do not use it enough.

( Actually, I just noticed that we just shut our last hearth in Canada. So we will not make steel anymore. So their idiot unions...can not blame Canada and its imaginary dumping of steel for your problems now! Neener Neener Neener. Sorry...could not resist! But, that much less smoke coming out of smokestacks. )

Why do I think that smoke is a problem...

Actually, Most of the deaths due to air pollution are from traffic fumes.

Trying to find the upside to motor vehicle traffic. Add this to injuries and deaths due to traffic accidents... outside of the scope of this comment.

I dunno if we can reverse global warming. As I pointed out, if its just the earth getting warmer, we are fxxxxxxd. If we caused it, we have a chance to reverse it. Why not try to reverse it, just in case it is the second possibility. Seems like a no brainer to me.

GET THE SMOKE OUT OF MY LUNGS!

If we reverse global warming at the same time...great. If it does not halt global warming, at least thousands upon thousands of people will live instead of going through the agony of traffic fume induced cancers and other illnesses.

US-Canada clean air act.

the above link shows that something is being done. Maybe.

When I posted, I was thinking that you lived on the west coast.

I do see people jogging right alongside traffic filled streets, and it makes no sense to me.

Your links look like cherry picked estimates. Lets look at the big picture; did you realize that prior to the US industrial revolution, life expectancy was about 50 years old?

Average life expectancy in Canada is 82. That's a pretty high number, considering that traffic fumes are wiping out thousands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

I'm buying winter gear...

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