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Electrical Protection

11/08/2013 3:18 AM

We running a Generator 3 phase, 6.3 KV,10 MW. There is phase current difference of 40 Amperes among 3 phases due to loads, i.e if R and y phases are at 1200 A then B Phase is at 1160 A. we have all protection relays active in system such that Negative Phase Sequence fault protection, Zero sequence Fault protection etc. My Question is, with this unbalance of 40 Ampere is there any harm to Generator. The negative phase sequence protection is not detecting this and system is normal running. The Negative phase sequence setting is 0.4 A (Alarm at 0.5 Sec and Trip at 5 sec). With the normal Ground fault or two phase fault this relay detects. So please resolve my confusion.

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Re: Electrical Protection

11/08/2013 3:46 AM

The difference in currents between phases is indicative of single phase loads being connected downstream. Provided the circuit protection devices are set correctly, and everything in the thread so far suggests that they are, then this is a normal occurrence and no harm would occur to the generator. If a fault were to occur, then the circuit protective devices would operate, and still no harm would occur to the generator or the wiring; that is why they are there.

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11/08/2013 3:57 AM

40/1200 ≈ 3.3%. Not too bad.

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11/08/2013 11:53 AM

Calculate your PF, measure your THD and be happy that you only have that much imbalance.

It's pretty good in my eyes.

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11/09/2013 10:36 AM

It is difficult to comprehend single phase loads at 6kV level.

I would like to believe that the unbalance is due to harmonics in the system owing to variable frequency drives etc. as you mentioned.

Another possibility is long single core cables laid in flat formation (as another poster mentioned).

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11/08/2013 11:23 PM

Stop worrying. All is good.

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Re: Electrical Protection

11/09/2013 1:05 AM

Permissible Negative sequence capability of 3 phase machines is governed by following relation

I22 x t = 20

Based on the CT ratio and secondary current, calculate I2, check that Negative Sequence relay is adjusted correctly. For setting protection relay we use value of 15 instead of 20 (leaving some margin for CT error and safety factor)

40A of unbalance in one phase for 10MW rating appears within limit. But must investigate whether it is actual unbalance load, or Turn Ratio error in that phase CT or wrong instrument.

I am sure protection CT and measuring CT must be different - so as a first check take a Clip on Am meter (Tong Tester) and check secondary currents in all 3 CTs and current wiring to relay -

If the currents in all 3 phases of Protection Relay are same whereas there is a difference in currents of ammeter - then it is a CT error.

If Currents in secondary circuit are balance then it is measuring instrument error.

If unbalance is confirmed by both protection and metering CT then check individual feeders for the cause of unbalance.

If particular phase (B) in all feeders has lower current then it can be:

1. Higher voltage drop in cable connections of B phase -check for any heating joint or connection.

2. Or may be that you are using single phase cables and there are not laid in Trefoil shape or if the length is long, cores are not inter-transposed.

3. Worst can be if inter-turn fault in stator coil of phase B (I hope that is not the case).

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Re: Electrical Protection

11/12/2013 6:29 AM

Thanks to all my well wishers, i will follow the instruction and reply again

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