Do You Feel Psychopathic Sometimes?

of, pertaining to, or affected with psychopathy; engaging in amoral or antisocial acts without feeling remorse. answer........no

Well I try to be antisocial and it really doesn't bother me when I succeed at it so where does that leave me?

It leaves you out shopping for a new hat if we are to give credit for the avatar change

I have taken the liberty of locating an on-line test that seems to have some validity....

http://www.counseling-office.com/surveys/test_psychopathy.phtml

I took the test and I can confidently say I didn't learn anything about me my wife doesn't already peck at me about.

I'm just 80% generally anti social but I already knew that.

I'll try harder next time but hey when I was in highschool if I scored 80% on anything I considered that doing very well against my usual average!

Good as time as any for a avatar change!

I have wondered about the source of that avatar, it seemed vaguely familiar - some kind of cartoon alien vampire ?

It's the Joker from 'The Batman' animated series from a number of years ago.

They took his character to the point of being almost animal like in psychotic crazy.

Probably one of my all time favorite bad guys ever!

I think LongintheTooth may have been referring to your former avatar.

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Or perhaps I am the one who is mistakes.

Yes the previous avatar the blue person.

The blue headed guy was Megamind. Bad guy gone good.

The new one rather reflects my inner personality since I got married.

Are you kidding me?

42 questions? did this come from the Hitchikers Guide? That takes way too long!

Anybody who comes here more that about 25 times needs some kind of help!!!!!!!!!!!!

I felt like I was reading the president's resume.

Anyway...I answered the questions based on what I know about our leader, and the tendencies that he shows. Most of it, I can link to provable actions from him.

Here's what I got:

There are indications that you might have a psychopathic / antisocial personality disorder.
You reached 100.00% of Factor 1 which captures the core personality traits of psychopathy that define the interpersonal and affective deficits of this personality disorder (e.g. shallow affect, superficial charm, manipulativeness, lack of empathy) and that are correlated with narcissistic personality disorder, low anxiety, low empathy, low stress reaction and low suicide risk. But Factor 1 is also associated with extraversion and positive affect - affected persons usually score high on scales of achievement and well-being, so some aspects of the personality disorder may even be beneficial for the psychopath (in terms of nondeviant social functioning or if it comes to profit from manipulation or lies).
You reached 72.22% of Factor 2 which captures the traits of antisocial behavior (e.g. criminal versatility, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, poor behaviour controls, juvenile delinquency) and is associated with reactive anger, social deviance, sensation seeking, anxiety, increased risk of suicide, low socio-economic status, criminality, and impulsive violence.
You reached 100.00% in other relevant traits that can indicate this personality disorder.
However, there are disputes over the correct diagnosis of psychopathic resp. antisocial personality disorders, and the standardization of clinical testing for APD/PPD is still in the process.
Regarding the perspective for psychopathic/antisocial personalities and treatment options, please refer to my article about psychopathy and antisocial behavior in the "Papers" section of my website.

Score: 33 of 38 [33:16/13/4]

There are strong indications that you might have a
narcissistic personality disorder.
There are slight differences between the major diagnostic manuals in how to diagnose a narcissistic personality disorder, with the ICD-10 manual stating that a person may only be diagnosed with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder if she/he does not meet the diagnostic criteria for a dissocial (antisocial, psychopathic), histrionic or any of the other personality disorders at the same time. For the DSM-IV manual, there is no such exclusion. It is unusual for NPD personality types to seek therapy, as they unconsciously fear exposure or inadequacy and will usually disdain therapeutic processes or the idea of psychotherapy itself, sabotage the therapeutic process or openly oppose it. Pharmacotherapy is rarely effective.
Score: 9 of 9

There are strong indications that you might have a
histrionic personality disorder.
There is, however, no scientific test to confirm this diagnosis other than to verify the symptoms by subjective means. Thus, some people may be wrongly diagnosed as having the disorder while others with the disorder may not be diagnosed - with the result that treatment is often only prompted by depression associated with dissolved romantic relationships. Medication does little to affect this personality disorder, but may be helpful with symptoms such as depression. Psychotherapy may be of benefit and will aim at self-development through resolution of conflict and advancement of inhibited developmental lines.[D:11/I:8]

You meet 100% of the range of general personality disorder criteria.
This further indicates that you might have to deal with a severe personality disorder.
Thus, is strongly recommended you seek a professional diagnosis to be sure what exactly you are dealing with.
It might turn out useful to print the previous page including your selections and take it to a psychotherapist, psychiatrist or psychologist.[G:5]

Dang! I'm not even fit to be president.

Don't be so hard on yourself...it takes a degree of self love that most people don't possess.

dont worry, neither is the guy who is

src:: http://penddraig.co.uk/pen/tests/sanity.htm

Query Top5:: 46 90 104 127 153

score:: .18181818181818183 =apx. 2/11 (i didn't expected 2B so ... "sane"Xi)

Looks like an good one.

This is a insanity test...

....and they have a online store.

Good grief. I already spent too much time there, and I didn't even get to the questions.

Kramarat:

Question 161: Have you so far outlined all the spelling mistakes in the test?

No. When I saw the mistakes on the top of the page, I lost interest. I figured the whole thing was either a put on, or written by idiots.

According to that test I'm 17.6% insane. I was hoping to score higher.

How a bout taking a sanity test from a Goth site? That's crazy in itself.

Somehow missed looking at this link. I think it is a "self-test" for the author for humor quotient. I rate it (or is that irate it) mildly humorous.

Psychopathic? No.

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Sometimes I feel a little involuntarily telepsychotic.... as though I'm receiving far to clear an image of the way the warped gears twist in the mind of someone with whom reality is not well acquainted.

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It gives me a little shutter, when I realize someone is barreling ahead in life making decisions of consequence with so little reality in the decision making process.

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It makes me wonder occasionally; assuming the problem in their mind is in the software and not the hardware, could looking too close, i.e. simulating their process, recreate certain problems in the mind of the observer as well?

I don't know. I'm too busy worrying about the narcissistic psychopath that's running the country.

Maybe a more interesting question would be...If you were given a lump of living, breathing humanity, (with no programming at all), and were tasked with creating a "normal" person; how would you create a "normal" person, and how would you know that it was normal, and not merely a reflection of yourself?

...and if it is a reflection of yourself, how do you qualify yourself as normal?

Somebody said "Normal is what everybody else is and you are not." from a movie?

I wouldn't want to be tasked with creating a 'normal' person.

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At least shoot for creating an extraordinary person. If anyone is in need of a 'normal' person, the rejects from the extraordinary should suffice.

As in "our image?"

The craziest, most insecure people I have ever seen, was at a convention in San Diego for psychologists, psychiatrists, and the whole therapy lot. My sister was there for the convention, (hawking software from a booth), and we drove down from Santa Cruz.

There were a couple thousand people there, and almost all of them were staring at the floor and afraid to make eye contact....with anyone. It was freaky.

My girlfriend, (wife now), and I, were drinking screwdrivers out of giant McDonald's cups, and laughing at them, which was quite fun.

Could be worse! When I am in a large group of people with my wife I feel like stabbing a screwdriver in my eye.

It is not hyperbole to say that the people most in need of the psychiatric professions are in a psychiatric profession.

Funny. People in the sciences (at least in academia) don't make much eye contact, either.

I'm not sure if I am or am not a Psychopath.

I'm pretty sure that I can be an a##hole sometimes. Proud of it too. Is that the same thing?

I'll take that test and see.

I'll take the test, but first, I want to know everything about the people that wrote it.

Everything....not a single stone unturned.

What do you mean, sometimes?

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Then that might translate to sum-times.

I took the test;

The test result was detailed providing an estimate and discussion of one's proclivity to:

psychopathic / antisocial personality disorder.

narcissistic personality disorder.

histrionic personality disorder

My score for possibly being a psychopath was 31.25% of Factor 1

The end summary said :

You meet 60% of the range of general personality disorder criteria.
However, there are no clear indications of you having a psychopathic/antisocial, narcissistic or histrionic disorder, so there might be another problem not captured by this test.
Thus, is strongly recommended you seek a professional diagnosis to be sure what exactly you are dealing with.

It might turn out useful to print the previous page including your selections and take it to a psychotherapist, psychiatrist or psychologist.

It insinuates that everyone must have some sort of personality disorder even though it didn't show up and seek help anyway. All these years I thought I was "dealing with" normality.

I wonder what a healthy personality is then?

Is there an international standard that can be referenced to ensure compliance?

Anyhow, that's my score. Try and "beat" it.

Whoever devised that test is a crazy SOB and if I could get my hands on them right now, I'd choke the life right out of their worthless body.

What's your score? err Please.

I don't communicate with psychopaths.

Seek a professional diagnosis to be sure what exactly you are dealing with.

I could get my pension early if I can prove I'm crazy.

Totally and permanently disabled. Disability: Chronic Political Incorrectness. Incurable.

Quite right. In contrast, there is almost no interest in examining the heads of those people devoid of introspective curiosity, since anything of value or interest would be an exceedingly rare find.

when the economy crisis bloomed in EU 2006-2008CE my boss constantly delayed his duty coming out with a next *excusing *lies each month - well it was the time a lot of businesses went off business - so i thought if it (the maddness**) keeps us going - it's ok with me - but then 1 day it said - i think i quit (there was no other reason for him to do so than his unsatisfied expectancy of the profit he has used to - the dude had no economical education other than past practice) - it paid only the 3-rd of final sum - and there were more to it - i thought eighter this guy is normal - or there's something i've seriously misunderstood - made the test around then - Mr. "Life is fun" (Jerk ass)

Conversations with my wife at times tend to make me feel like going on a psychopathic killing spree.

What does that count for?

It can all be blamed on Global Warming....

Right--they don't have anywhere near enough butterfly nets.

It's called a broken economy, joblessness, chronic unemployment, spiraling debt, Al Gore building a new mansion on the west coast, a president that has bought the hype, wiping out energy production, higher taxes, carbon exchanges that are designed to steal money, Solyndra....

I don't need no stinkin' symposium to tell me why I'm down!

That is one big pile of shit.

It's just another test for confirmation.

No one's defended Newton??

You are what other people make you be, ie: action & re-action (wink,wink).

Sometimes you're the BOMB, sometimes you're the FUSE, and sometimes you're the MATCH!

YES and I'm rather proud of it. That way I can act like an a$s whenever I want to and not have to either explain it or justify it. Besides the patients run the lunatic asylum so I get to be the best at something sometimes.

It helps me deal with the wife, the kids, the mother-in-law, the jerk next door, the boss who thinks he is the smartest brain in the world, the crude, rude and obnoxious brother-in-law, and any other butt head that comes along.

Don't know about the wife though. She thinks she's the nicest person around these parts of the country because she wears a designer straight jacket.

Good Luck, Old Salt

I've heard some elderly people say getting "old" gives a similar license. I'm on the doorstep... we'll see.

Maybe the dominoes began to fall with my generation. Walking the fence of wanting the best for one's children and spoiling them can be hard... at least, it seems so. I never had children, so what do I really know? It's mostly a general observation. ("Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile.")

Passerby-

Some eminent things I have learned:

Getting older sucks--Told to me by my cardiologist who is 20 years younger than me! Not only is he wise in his philosophical words but he is an excellent doctor. When I had my first procedure 15 years ago my mother-in-law put up a fuss and didn't want him in the room because she said he was a high school kid.

Children don't get better, just different---a toddler going through the "terrible two's" will also go through the screwed up 20's.

Life isn't all that it's rated to be, it's a hell of a lot better. Enjoy it while you can!

Any day you wake up on the green side is a GREAT DAY! It's those days you wake on the brown root side you have to worry about.

Age doesn't matter. Your only as old as you feel. Some days the ole' body feels about 108 years old and the mind is acting like a 28 year old. I go with the 28 years and don't worry about the body. Some 28 year olds have pains prematurely so I'll join them.

Don't sweat the small stuff! Some day the sh$t is really going to hit the fan. You'll have your chance to really worry and sweat then.

As you mentioned "Maybe the dominoes began to fall with my generation". If they do, walk on over them and get to the bright side of life. You can't live more than one day at a time, don't worry about any other ones.

Miracles do happen! I don't expect I'll get a chance at a third one but I'm making the best out of every day.

In the famous words of Alfred E. Newman, of "Mad Magazine", "What, Me Worry?"

Good Luck, Old Salt

As Better Davis remarked, "Old age isn't for sissies."

Experience is the best teacher. Enjoying the application of lessons learned is often interfered with by physical discomforts and disease. I'd say there is a good argument for "Just about the time you start to get things figured out... you die."

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I agree with you, mostly. I have a rather unique situation where I take a more optimistic but realistic viewpoint. I force myself to look at the bright and appreciate that side of life but also realize that everything, especially life itself will come to an end. That why I use the phrase "Any day on the green side of the grass is a great day". Some days may be real sh$tty but things could get worse so enjoy what you can.

The reason for this approach is-- I have been clinically dead twice. Not planned, not anticipated, not prepared for or any of that stuff. Both times due to heart attacks. First one was a plumbing and rhythm problem, misdiagnosed for two weeks, hospital procedure killed me, doctors brought me back with injections and cpr.

2nd one was at a fire (I'm a volunteer firefighter). Was outside the building, thought I blacked out, woke up in and ambulance where they told me I had a heart attack and heart stopped for 6 minutes. AED and CPR and a bunch of wonderful people looking after me got me back into this world. Ambulance next to local hospital, local hospital not fit for my dog, helicopter to good hospital, treated by dr's and nurses. Diagnosed as electrical problem. Out in 1 week. Even with all this today is better than yesterday.

Why have I gone into this war story? I'm on my third chance at life and I don't want to screw it up. I also want others to see the good in life and not burden themselves with only the bad stuff.

No matter how bad things seem there is always something good to be thankful for. No matter how bad things may seem there is always someone worse off than you. I personally know this, just have to look in a cemetery to see that is true.

Thank you for your comments and listening. I hope it gives you a greater appreciation for life. I know it has for me in writing this. The best to you!

Good Luck, Old Salt

I understood, old salt, what you meant to convey and appreciate the reminder. It is wise to always make the best of one's circumstances. But I would, respectfully, disagree, that looking at a cemetery is a reminder that things could be worse. That is only true if one considers what we experience with our senses, to be all there is. Many have had NDE from similar circumstances as your "deaths." Quite a few of them didn't want to come back to this life that most of us treasure so much. It all depends on one's experience.

Your experiences and the lessons you gained from them made me think of how, all my life, I have enjoyed stories -- especially stories from people's experience, as opposed to those made up as a creative act. I also found that I loved stories from different spiritual traditions that convey wisdom; whether actual incidents or not. They stir us inside. One that just came to mind (and for no particular reason) which I very much like, is a story from Gandhi's life:

A woman once came to Gandhi and complained to him that her son was eating too much sugar. Gandhi asked the woman to bring the boy back in a week. Exactly one week later the woman returned, and Gandhi said to the boy, "Please give up eating sugar." The woman thanked the Mahatma, and, as she turned to go, asked him why he had not told the boy that a week ago." Gandhi replied, "Because a week ago, I was eating sugar."

(One can find several variations on this story, but the gist is the same.)

Best of luck and health to you, too!

Passerby-

Yes, there are many stories that reflect on the experience of life, wisdom, and many others. Fortunately, there are more on the good side than the bad side. Perhaps the use of he word "cemetery" is not the appropriate word to use but to me it is a reminder of many things that I will leave behind. Believe me when I say that this statement is irrelevant to religious preferences, etc. The Summation is that I enjoy life more now and "always stop to smell the roses" despite what others might tell me to do.

One fact that I didn't mention in my previous posting, you can believe in it or not, was that I had an out of body experience during my first event. Without going into an time consuming litany of it I talked with many of my relatives that have passed on, there was a woman dressed in a white outfit leading me on, things were really nice and beautiful there and all those people were urging me to go on.

The only thing that kept me from going was, and these are my own words, "I can't go on, it would be so long till my wife would be there with me". Those were the words and if anyone doesn't believe me that's their problem not mine. I turned around and walked away. Next thing I knew the doctors were telling me to breath and repeated that many times. After this they told me that they had lost me but were able to get me back. I believe them because if it weren't for them I wouldn't be here struggling with this keyboard. After all this settled in my mind the greatest thing on my mind was that I was going to what many refer to as "Heaven" and not H$ll as I would have thought.

Results stated before, I try to do something good for another being every day without any expectations of even a thank you, I try to be good and supportive of my family no matter how p$ssed off I am at them, I try to set an example for others especially the youngsters, and also to enjoy each day that I am on the green side of the grass. There are many other phrases and stories that I use in my daily life too numerous to mention here. If nothing else, they keep depression from becoming a part of my life as many have the burden of. Live life to its fullest while we are here.

Best of luck and health to you also!

Good Luck, Old Salt

I believe you. And I think you will always have roses to smell, no matter where you are.

Old Salt,

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I find myself in the strange position of being in disagreement with your reasoning, yet in full agreement with your conclusions/recommendations.

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Your argument that there is always someone worse off than you, is a bit specious. It is tempting to point out that at least one person has it worse than anyone else, but that is to accept the fallacy of the argument. A position cannot be deemed acceptable due merely to the fact that there are less desirable or less tolerable positions possible.

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Being scheduled for execution by firing squad at noon, for a crime you did not commit, does not become a good thing merely because 40 other wrongly accused people will be punched in the nose and then executed by being drawn and quartered in the hours prior to your appointment. They have it worse, but that doesn't mean you've got it good.

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Now about those people in the cemetery....allow me to play devil's advocate for a bit. We can't be certain what, if anything, is after this life. To produce the most conservative analysis, I'm going to assume that floating on clouds while listening to bird-men strum harps for eternity is just a bunch of malarkey (it isn't really my idea of a good time anyway, so I'd have a hard time seeing it a reward, but I digress).

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Assuming that death is just nothingness, no awareness, nothing, distills the question down to 'is life a net positive experience'?

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In the context of dichotomies such as, win/lose, happy/sad, gain/loss, pleasure/pain, known/unknown, or experienced/missed, a strong argument can be made that life generally is not a net positive experience. In the long term, all your toils are for naught. Nothing that you do will last. It is all fleetingly impermanent. Even if you are just here for the ride, the things you experience and the concepts you grasp are far outweighed by the vast sea of things you never get the opportunity to experience or understand.

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Being born is traumatic, dying is traumatic, all the people you grow to love and cherish are the source of the greatest sorrow when they are lost. The very word 'compassion' is derived from the Latin words for 'with' and pain'. Beyond that there is sorrow and pain that does not originate for the loss of something good.

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More simply, consider the pleasure an animal has when it is eating another animal as compared to the displeasure the other animal has being caught and devoured. In my estimation, the credit of pleasure had by the dining animal falls far short being able to pay the debt of misery of the animal being eaten.

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....and yet, I agree with you completely. There is so much to be thankful for. We live in an amazing time. It is downright rude to all that has come before not to show some appreciation for the opportunity to experience life right now.

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I think in some ways the 'net positive' analysis is a bit of a false dichotomy. They say the opposite of love is not hate, but apathy. In a similar way the opposite of a good life is not a bad life, but no life at all. They also say there is a fine line between pleasure and pain, and trying to sort life into those piles is probably rather and not a useful way to evaluate. Rather than trying to figure out how good or bad we have it, appreciating that we simply have it at all, might be a good place to work from.

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So, after your two experiences have you adopted Dean Ornish eating habits?

truth is not a compromise:

First of all, let me congratulate you on an achievement I have always wanted to see. You have been able to put more verbiage in an answer than I ever have. I thought I held the record but I gladly forward that honor to you. (Not antagonistic, just light humor)

I respect that you have your view points and have expressed them clearly so that others can probably understand them. Although, as you I don't agree with some of them and they do not always coincide with my philosophy of life that I am living with. Whether vague or specific they have gotten me through some very hard to understand or to live with situations. This had worked for me and I respect that of others.

My use of the statement that "there is always someone worse off than you" is not specifically applicable to everyone and for every situation. It is correct in most situations. % I don't know, and can be guidance for handling poor situations that a person might feel they are in. Besides, it works for me so I'll stick with it!

As for the firing squad, the general aspects of the cemetery, death being nothingness, dichotomies, etc. I respect your view and understand what you are projecting. At this point in my life there are other things more important to me than contemplating the relativity of some potential actions and reaction. Right now my fingers are tired from keyboarding, I don't have the time or inclination now to spell check this posting which would make this easier to read, I have been up since 4am to help someone else who needed help, I will probably fall asleep as I write this and I don't see the need to reveal any more of my life and how it has influenced me than what I have already. That is the privacy that I feel comfortable with. It works for me so I'll stick with it.

I have much to be thankful for and I would like to leave this earth better than when I entered it. This is not strictly in an engineering and scientific way. Many people have helped me during my progress through life and I would like to repay them for this by helping others in my lifetime. Likewise, there are some people who have made my life harder than I would have liked it to be but I'm not going to dwell on them because there are more of the good than the bad. Besides that I would rather be happy, help humanity in the ways I can, present a smile so that it might influence others to smile (fewer muscles, etc. To look at things in an unknowing and negative way would probably lead to depression, a condition I have seen others suffer from and has motivated me to help them in any way I can. It works for me so I'll stick with it.

One of the major influences about me and philosophy is that I don't particularly enjoy discussing it with others because these discussions often time becomes adversarial. Some participants don't have the respect for other's thoughts and demean people who have any thoughts that differ from their own. Matter of fact I flunked philosophy in college. Didn't like studying those people and their thoughts. Besides that the professor was an egotistical jerk in love with himself and his thoughts. I took it during the next summer and enjoyed it because ground rule #1 was respect for others and their feelings. Besides I have had mine for so long there isn't much in this world that would make me change it. It works for me so I'll stick with it.

I have discussed near death and death with several others that have been in similar situations with out of body experiences. Common to them are that the experiences are nice, most people regarded them as nice while they were in it and most of all there isn't a long distance or time between living and death. No one who hasn't experienced this can clearly understand this concept. I don't recommend anyone setting up an experiment to prove this, just trust those who have been through it. It works for me so I'll stick with it.

I am glad to see there is someone else who believes that there is much to be thankful for when the sum is considered. Much like integration of math, what we think today is the summation of all our experiences are. Each day I wake up on the green side of the grass is a great day. I'm not too anxious to experience the alternate because I like what I have now. Appreciating the small stuff really can add up to a really enjoyable sum.

My two exceptional life experiences have not influenced me to adopt the philosophy of Dean Ornish (I had to look that one up). I have reduced the amount of bad stuff and junk in my digestive intake. That and modern medicine has influenced my experiences in life and made me able to initiate producing this correspondence. I don't know how this all fits together but I like it while I have it. It works for me so I'll stick with it.

Good Luck, Old Salt