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Universal Warming Mars and Earth and NASA

11/14/2013 8:27 AM

"...conflicting data...so two probes will be launced....(pre2010) ", NASA, televised, Washington Post telecast

" ...I will repeat this....IF there is NO input to the carbon dioxide in the air from burning of fossil fuels, there will be NO net gain, and therefore no global warming...."

2011, yusef... .

are Mars polar caps melting , and the entire solar system heating up by historical analysis?

[ If a rubber-band could represent gravitational pulls among objects (material within a rubber-band within elasticities) - and I then can by experiment, measure and feel "the heat" when such a rubber-band is accelerated, and stretched with an energy input, and it is true science that the universe is accelerating outward by an energy input: WHAT IS THE % of the HEAT of such universal energy input causing said acceleration of all things gravitationally-connected, which may be compared to any ..."carbon dioxide in the air...net gain...[Earthly] ...global warming." ? (?!) ]

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Re: universal warming Mars and Earth and NASA

11/14/2013 8:31 AM

As an overall universeal system, the net energy is large; As a factor in a single solar system or planet, the energy is almost negligible ( below limits of measurement ). It becomes a matter of scale. What is the estimated mass of a single planet or solar system within the mass of the universe ? Any calculated energy component would be subject to that ratio.

" there will be NO net gain, and therefore no global warming...."

There is much more than that to the warming system problem, that is a simplistic view.

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Re: universal warming Mars and Earth and NASA

11/14/2013 8:53 AM

Thank you.

Just also have been reading of Jupiter's surface temp increasing, and have only heard (no data reviewed) of mars polar caps melting.

Any comments there?

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11/14/2013 10:05 AM

We have not enough data on either planet or occurrence to understand the physical reasons for these changes, but it is unlikely that these kinds of changes, if they are created by a common effect on both planets, would not also show up on every other planet as well. Do Saturn or uranus or neptune or Venus show these changes as well ? We still have only a basic knowledge of the composition and forces involved in Jupiter or any other planet in our system, so it can at best be called an interesting observation, waiting for other observations to contribute to a reasonable explanation. It is more likely that local planetary events or forces have caused these effects; we simply do not have enough data to know. We can speculate all we want but speculation is not engineering, and taking events from one system and applying them to another system ( earth ) is stretching the reasoning to the breaking point.

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11/19/2013 11:26 AM

And so goes the push to 'frac-on'

http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2012/09/12/natural-gas-fuels-bright-outlook-for-further-emissions-reductions/?gclid=CIW17_qg8boCFSsS7Aod4iQAzQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Seems we can neither speculate systemic application/conjecture "breaking point" nor "stretching" as in any objective judgement yet either. Such judgements appear equally as speculative to believe.

However it is now 3 planets:

Earth Mars and Jupiter coinciding with a warming effect. (?)

---how true: so many missing links to accuracy as such of that "knowledge" or scientia simply IS. - still needs much more ricerca within the very , limited human reasoning and less experience than we thinks

Oh well, how tiny we are, and how tiny the human effectually affects...

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11/19/2013 11:30 AM

Money and special interests have been known to skew scientific data before ; with money, an opposing view can always be found, often to the detriment of truth.

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11/19/2013 11:54 AM

the Love of money; but not as the tool of as money is

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11/19/2013 11:49 AM

This one:

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So, that brings us to the definition of a theory. This is where many non-scientists get it wrong. Theories are scientific evidence, collected over time, and accepted as a valid explanation for evidence. Theories are different than hypotheses and scientific laws. A hypothesis is an educated guess, based on knowledge, but that needs continual testing for further development (into a theory). Laws are scientific facts that are virtually incontrovertible. For instance, if you throw a ball up, it will come down. Gravity is a law of science.

What can be done? Not much. There is little that can be done to exorcise the wrong choice of words from this already huge topic. Most people, myself included, do not know enough about the world's climate system to make a judgment call or to analyze climate data. Even supercomputers spit out evidence contradictory to current scientific thought. Can I compete with a supercomputer, or the world's top climate scientists?"

http://weather.about.com/od/climatechange/f/global_warming_climate_change.htm

or

that one:

http://www.acoolerclimate.com/facts-about-global-warming/

and why that one without volcanic admission? :

http://globalwarming.sdsu.edu/

or giving % 02 by plants vs plants producing global CO2

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=plants+give+off+co2+in+the+night&sa=Search

seems to dig up some total consistancy in information would require each one to not be involved with some other "gain" other than just facing accurate objectivity

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11/19/2013 11:51 AM

interesting and thank you for some views; and that while you replied the "money" I wrote the "gain" that is so loved among my greed and envy needing shelved so frequently

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11/20/2013 1:44 PM

Whatever; I am not really interested in off topic...... < unsubscribe >

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