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Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/08/2014 5:48 AM

We are facing problem in ammonia compressor having mechanical seal installed at both ends to seal ammonia. The lube oil is provided for lubrication of bearings and mechanical seal faces. During changeover of lube oil pumps the pressure changes from 31 kg/cm2 to 23kg/cm2 and then back to 33kg/cm2. After this fluctuation the compressor is running with sinusoidal vibrations on all 04 vibration probes of machine. The sinusoidal vibrations are +x and -x from the base values i.e. the increase and decrease of vibration is same from base value of vibration. The phase angle fluctuates in a same way as that of vibrations on all 04 vibration probes of compressor.

Note that the cyclic variations are of following type

VT-401A/B: compressor outboard 25 ~ 32 micron within 3 to 5 sec

VT-402A/B: compressor inboard 14 ~ 23 micron within 3 to 5 sec

The ADRE data signatures show

· The main component is 1x.

· No sub synchronous component present

· The polar plot is perfect circle equal to change in phase angle.

· Orbit is same as before the problem occur.

Following actions were taken to subside this change.

· Oil supply temperature changed from 45deg C to 50 deg C in steps but no change

· 230 RPM reduced and increased but no change (11200 to 10970 rpm and back to 11100 rpm)

· Seal oil flow increased from 40 GPM to 42 GPM but no change

· The vibration probes health being ensured

· The coaxial cable health being ensured

· All this problem arises during changeover of lube oil pump, so the lube oil pump changed over again but vibrations do not subside

The suggestions are required to subside the problem

P.S. No change in bearing temperatures, seal oil pressure, differential pressure, reference gas pressure, sour oil flows or compressor axial vibration was noted.

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/08/2014 11:05 AM

Arrange for a service visit by the equipment manufacturer's Service Technician.

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/08/2014 10:52 PM

What type of ammonia compressor is this? Working pressure, power?

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/08/2014 11:16 PM

It is multistage centrifugal pump having discharge pressure of 12.3Kg/cm2 flow 7,631m3/hr and 5,323 KW

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/08/2014 11:49 PM

Are you producing ammonia or is this a compressor that is used for cooling/refrigeration using ammonia? How many hours have the bearings. Did you open the compressor when replacing the seals? How old is the pump?

Seals have been replaced because of leaks? Seals can only tolerate a certain tolerance in axial play. They wear out rapidly when used out of range.

I think that your bearings had to be replaced. The seals try to coop with the shaft, but are not made for the pressure applied. The frequency of your vibration may have something to do with the material it is made of. You certainly have a balance problem, maybe caused by just a little bit too worn or wrongly adjusted (if adjustable type) bearing.

You said that you can vary the speed. Why not try at much lower speed and see if the frequency of your vibration is a direct function of the speed.

Your supplier must know this problem and is the best placed person to give you an answer.

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/09/2014 8:56 AM

I would install a properly sized accumulator in parallel to the lubrication common header piping so that the oil pressure to all bearings remain stable with no fluctuations during pump transfer/changeover.

Sizing of the accumulator is determined by standard formulae available from the selected accumulator manufacturer.

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Re: Sinosidal Vibration On Compressor

01/09/2014 11:20 PM

The lube oil system is already equiped with bladder

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