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Chiller Water Vertical Centrifugal Pump

02/23/2014 10:52 AM

Good Day Everyone,

I have this pump that some idiot took the name plate off, it is used to circulate chilled water throughout a building with a head of 63' and flow of 502 GPM, I have all the motor details but cannot figure out what model or manufacturer the pump is, this creates a major issue for me as I cannot order the seal kit to service the unit now, there is also no literature on this pump in any drawings. Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated.

The motor details are as follows:

Manufacturer - Baldor

Model - EM2333T

Spec. - 09F657X824G1

FL Amps - 42.4

Open Drip Proof

Frame - 254TYZ

HZ - 60

INSL - F

RPM - 1765

HP - 15

SF - 1.15

40C AMB CONT

Volts - 200-208

Serial - Z0701100107

The inlet diameter is 5'' without flange and out of 5.5'' without flange. The TYZ frame suggests that this is from the 1970's? Any assistance would be of tremendous help. Thank you all in advance, I hope that you are all well.

-Rob
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Re: Chiller Water Vertical Centrifugal Pump

02/23/2014 11:17 AM

You may want to check with a company called Wilo, or anyone that carries their pumps.

The color and configuration look correct.

http://www.appliedpumps.co.uk/products/centrifugal-pumps/wilo-centrifugal-pumps/

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Re: Chiller Water Vertical Centrifugal Pump

02/23/2014 11:20 AM

Hi Kramarat,

Thanks for the information. It is much appreciated!
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02/23/2014 11:37 AM

I did a little further searching, and I can't find your exact model, but they use Baldor motors on their pumps.

Good luck. Let us know if you find your seal kit.

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02/23/2014 11:43 AM

This is good news, thank you very much. I will let you know how it goes...

-Rob.
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02/23/2014 12:01 PM

I assure you if you go to an industrial pump repair/re-builder all they'll have to do is glance at your pump and know exactly what you need, if you can't bring the pump just take 5-6 quality pics and email, your problem will quickly be resolved
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02/23/2014 12:05 PM

Hi Fredski,

Thank you, I will give it a shot (pun intended lol).

-Rob
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02/23/2014 12:39 PM

The inlet should be larger than the outlet, so you might want to recheck dimensions. If the good advice thus far doesn't pan out, you could ask Baldor where that particular motor went.

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02/23/2014 1:10 PM

Serial - Z0701100107

Wow! I am impressed! That is the kind of sideways thinking that keeps me coming back to CR4! Somebody married the motor to the pump. Either the pump or chiller manufacturer - if they are both original.

Might not pan out but GA from me!

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02/23/2014 1:55 PM

Hi Kilowatt0,

This is very interesting, if this is the case, this pump is about 43 years old as the TYZ frame was made around that time, they don't do that type of frame anymore as far as I am aware!

-Rob
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02/23/2014 2:02 PM

Hi Kilowatt0,

Just out of curiosity, how did you come to that conclusion judging by the serial number?

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02/24/2014 9:56 AM

The only conclusion I came to was that Tornado had given you a good answer. Therefore I voted him a GA - you should do the same.

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02/23/2014 1:53 PM

Hi Tornado,

Thank you for the sound advice, I will check my dimensions again, I have emailed Baldor and am hoping to get a response tomorrow.

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02/24/2014 7:41 AM

Inlet usually larger than discharge, but for in-line pumps like this they're often same size.

Also 5" and 5.5". 5" is a bit non-standard, but 5.5"? I suppose these are nominal sizes, OP doesn't say, also what he means by "without flange".

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02/24/2014 11:07 AM

This application is an in-line, vertical circulation pump operating in a closed-loop HVAC system and which normlly requires the inlet and outlet size dimensions to be the same.

The design is meant to merely circulate the water at a given flow, not to increase the pressure in the system.

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02/23/2014 11:04 PM

Hi, you may contact Baldor-Motor manufacturer and ask them to check their database to whom they have supplied this Motor since you have the serial number. Normally the Pump and Motor is supplied as one unit by pump manufacturer and Motor Manufacturer should list Pump Mfr in their database as client etc...
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02/23/2014 11:31 PM

This has already been covered.

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02/23/2014 11:35 PM

Did not see the full posts.. Thanks
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02/24/2014 8:35 AM

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02/24/2014 2:29 AM

Hi,

this looks like KSB pump ..

Here you will get some help

http://www.ksb.com

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02/24/2014 4:19 AM

Changing-out the installed one for the strategic spare held in the stores and replacing the strategic spare might be an answer. Wait. There is no strategic spare?

Oh, dear.....

Then using the pump maintenance records to see what was ordered for it last time it went through PPM and re-ordering might be an answer. Wait. There is no PPM and there are no maintenance records?

Oh, dear...

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02/24/2014 6:45 AM

Another option, rather than tracking down your pump and finding a seal kit for it, would be to take your motor specs, and just order up a new pump that will bolt to it.

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02/24/2014 10:59 AM

Robotech, it looks like a TACO pump.

All of the old models have been superceded by new models but the below link may get you close to what you need.

http://www.taco-hvac.com/en/products/KV%20Pumps/products.html?current_category=50

If the motor is still good TACO, Gurndfos, and/or other circulationg pump manufacturers usually offer a retro-fit pump that will fit the motor frame and performance specifications.

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02/24/2014 5:21 PM

Good Day Everyone,

I hope that you all had a pleasant weekend. Thank you all for your valuable input, as always you guys have been extremely helpful. I hope you are all well and I look forward to trying to help one of you one day. Take care.

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02/25/2014 12:24 PM

Dear Rob better to open the cover between pump and motor so that the pump shaft is exposed, and then you can have some idea of shaft diameter and ask some mechanical seal manufacturer with exposed shots.

It might help to find correct seal kit.

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