Hey All,
Recently discovered these forums, fell in love immediately :)
I am wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this technology. I did
some preliminary research to refine my thoughts, but I think a forum
such as this might be a healthier way to discuss the limitations of the
idea.
The original thought was eliminating waste/garbage by using some sort
of space elevator and sending the garbage into space/sun/moon/planet.
Looking at cost to build, maintain, payload size and cost to fire. This
is just an idea of sorts, nothing official/professional/concrete. I also
use some wikipedia articles for research so I have no idea how accurate
the info is.
The idea spawned after watching a documentary about a proposed mine
in Alaska that would require a trailing storage over hundreds of
kilometers - if only they could fire the trailings into space I thought
:)
Low earth orbit is approx 180km to 2000km. Medium orbit is 2000km to
35000km. High orbit is beyond 35000km.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Earth_orbit
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Orbitalaltitudes.jpg)
Initial research:
- Tethered space elevators are impossible currently due to massive
stress placed on the cable and vibrations resulting from
earth/wind/solar activity. One solution proposed is using a device
called a space fountain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_fountain) which would reduce the strain on the cable, but doesn't account for vibrations.
- Non-tethered applications such as a energy beam used to power an
engine on a craft. Would require a large amount of energy and I think it
would be too costly to build/maintain/operate, plus the technology
hurdles to overcome.
- Rail/coil guns are fascinating to me but I don't suspect a pure
rail/coil gun for large payloads has been experimented on. Potentially a
solution using super cooled applications or superconductive materials,
but length of the gun would be quite big (50km+). See ideas below.
(includes mass drivers)
- Chemical / fuel assisted guns, a combination of rail/coil guns with a
propellent fuel used to launch or carry the payload. Has been tested in
various projects in the 20th century, such as HARP (high altitude
research project, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_High_Altitude_Research_Project) which was successful in reaching 180km. See ideas below. (includes catapult like devices, spaceguns)
- Rockets / jet propelled devices, depends on cost of fuel and fuel
technology. Doesn't have long-term cost benefits currently imo unless
the rocket/fuel can be recycled. (I haven't done much research on this
topic)
The catcher idea:
The idea I am thinking about but I haven't found much research on is
having some sort of machine that is stable in low earth orbit that could
catch a spacegun's payload using magnetism and help it reach
medium/high earth orbit (2000km+). This machine would be relatively
small in size compared to the device on earth, and multiple machines at
various intervals within low and medium earth orbit would move the
payload further into orbit/space.
Using a spacegun (hybrid fuel+coil launcher), a payload+container
would be launched into low earth orbit, caught by the machine above,
which in itself is a coil gun and it accelerates the payload to another
machine, which catches and sends it off to another machine, so forth
until the payload has reached the end point.
The end point would be a catapult like gun that fires the payload
into space without an attached container (thus being able to reuse the
container). This could be on the moon, or in high orbit, but some place
that the payload won't be affected by earths gravity, and thus won't
fall back to earth.
The heat-resistant (won't melt during exit/entry) container would be
built to be used in the coil/rail gun as well as caught by the machine.
This would make the container reusable. Perhaps the container is dropped
back to earth and it lands in the ocean or caught by a catcher machine
on the ground (see further below), where it is retrieved.
The idea is partial to how a superconductive magnet works (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XEQVnIFmQ)
- the machine would capture a superconductive magnetic attached to the
container. I am thinking some kind of funnel/tunnel that causes the
magnet to fly towards the machine initially and as it approaches it
becomes ensnared in a flux trap. The machine then moves the container to
a coil/rain gun which fires it using similar technology.
Circular spacegun:
Potentially we could use a circular design to reduce the size of the
space gun. As it stands, calculations estimate a 60km long coil gun
would be needed to reach a stable low earth orbit (without a catching
device). A circular gun could use a hybrid model, but it is much less
needed as the circular model would be able to achieve greater speeds
without the need of a fuel to assist.
Horizontal spacegun:
Another idea is about using a horizontal "space gun" (rail/coil gun)
to push a payload at extreme speeds along a tunnel/surface, again where
the container has superconductive magnetic components. This is just an
idea for transporting goods across large distances quickly.
Earth-based spacegun + catcher:
Yet another earth-based transportation idea is to use a spacegun to
launch a payload along an arc (potentially into low earth orbit and fall
back to earth). The target would be a catcher machine that intercepts
the payload during transit. The grander thought is being able to launch
payloads across the ocean and having a catcher positioned along a
coastline could catch the payload. To the extreme would have catcher
machines across the global and spaceguns launching goods to wherever
they are needed. But this is all fantasy because I have no idea if it
scientifically possible or how much this would cost, lol :)
What do you guys think? Do you think it could be a cost effective
method of payload transport (whether garbage, waste or commercial
goods)?