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Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/09/2014 10:55 PM

Hey guys, I need your opinion on something.

We recently inspected our Apron Feeder head shaft and observed some axial movement of Sprocket Hubs. Now, measurements indicate the two hubs have variable distances from the Shaft shoulders so it's safe to assume that actual movement has occurred. The hubs are connected to the shafts through key and I would like to know if key connection is sufficient to prevent hub relative rotation as well as axial movement on shaft? Does Key connection only prevents hub free rotation Or it will restrict the axial movement as well?

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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/09/2014 11:17 PM

Keys/keyways themselves won't prevent axial movement. Setscrews may or may not help; they don't have much strength. Clamp-type shaft collars are a better bet.

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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/09/2014 11:39 PM

Thanks,

The design identify the set screws on both Hubs so can we assume the screws are broken and so we are experiencing the hub movement?

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03/09/2014 11:44 PM

They could be broken, loose, or gouging axially along the key surfaces.

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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/10/2014 12:03 AM

Thanks for the detail,

Is there a way to find out if the screw sets are loose or broken? Definitely we have to take a shut and then access it after removing the pans.

I guess the set screw connects the hub with the Shaft collar so prevents the relative movement?

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03/10/2014 12:46 AM
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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/10/2014 8:00 AM

Usually a set screw against the key is sufficient to stop any axial movement. But a lot of that depends on the load. Also the set screw should be checked for fastness occasionally. The fit of the sprocket to shaft is a slip fit. There is some clearance there. Tighten the set screw forces the sprocket against the shaft opposite to it. As the load rotates it will force the set screw to dig in deeper in to the key. The set screw become loose after time as the clearance that was between the shaft and sprocket is worn between the set screw and key.

If there is high loads I recommend that sprockets with a taper lock be used.

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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/10/2014 12:46 PM

The set screw(s) will tighten on to the top of the key to prevent damage to the shaft. As to checking if they are damaged/broken, take them out.

As to the distance from the shaft shoulder to the sprocket, that can vary due to the drive alignment. Its one of the reasons the sprockets can be moved on the shaft. It's a damn site easier to move the sprocket than the motor and gearbox.

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Re: Do We Expect Hub Movement on Key Connection

03/11/2014 12:04 AM

On a heavy drive like what you are describing you sure don't want a standard key/setscrew holding the sprocket in place. Especially since you are a 24/7 operation.

Relative rotation between the key, keyway, and sprocket is definitely not desireable on this kind of drive, since the movement will cause fretting corrosion, wear out the keyways in the sprocket and shaft, and will eventually cause the drive to fail. The slight movement will also make it impossible to keep setscrews tight.

There are many better ways of attaching a sprocket to a shaft that will resist the relative rotation as well as holding the sprocket against sideways motion on the shaft.

The simplest solution is to replace the sprocket with the straight keyed hub with a sprocket using one of the many brands of tapered hub attachments that will close in on the shaft with a clamping action. This clamping will also retain the key in most cases.

Hope this helps,

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03/11/2014 8:28 AM

Axial movement on the shaft may be a sign of misalignment in your drive. Check the shaft alignment perpendicular to the rotation as well as the sprocket alignment. If everything is aligned properly, there should be little axial force to move the sprockets. One must make the assumption that the drive was designed properly for the unit you have and there should be some adjustability in it so you can align everything accurately.

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