What is the Difference of "Manager Projects" and "Project Manager"

manager projects: wears several hats

project manager: wears one hat

Semantics.

"Manager projects" is not a recognizable term without an "of" or "," to signify that the person is a manager of projects.

In the most simplistic terms, manager projects would imply that that person manages multiple projects, and project manager would only manage one project.

That may explain the pay difference.

"Manager projects" is grammatically incorrect and Lyn is correct that the word "of" would be inserted between manager and projects. Perhaps this was written by someone who does not speak English as a first language. In addition, although the position of "project manager" is common, I have never heard of a "manager of projects." Sounds bogus to me.

I would contact the author for a clear explanation of what "manager projects" is referring to....Project manager is fairly clear in it's meaning...

A project manager is a professional in the field of project management. Project managers can have the responsibility of the planning, execution and closing of any project, typically relating to construction industry, architecture, aerospace and defense, computer networking, telecommunications or ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Manager

Some are guessing here...... when you don't know, there is nothing wrong with saying. "I don't know"

I myself never heard of a "manager projects". Sounds broken and out of context. It may help if you put it in the context as you saw it.

As a project manager... it is customary to manage a number of projects. (Certification would be as Project Manager Professional ( PMP))

And if a project had a number of smaller project nested that you have to manage, which is the next tier then you are a program manager. Also certifiable as Program Manager Professional (PgMP).

I myself am currently handling eleven (11) projects with a cost range of as little as $2800.00 to $1.2 million dollars. (4) of which is nested in a program that I manage, and my program is nesting into an even larger program managed by my boss with his totaling $6-8 million.... I don't have his numbers but is not necessary.

And I and my boss are working with peers that a managing the electrical and controls aspects of program, and it all has to meld together.

(communication is essential and can't be stressed enough)

It is becoming common for engineers to manage their projects as well as take the lead as a requirement. I'll leave this open without additional comments.

The Project Management Institute (PMI). from the PMP link earlier There are other organizations that teach and may gibe you a certificate, but this is the one from PMI is internationally accepted with local chapters are through out.

Why didn't you just say you don't know.

By your own admission you don't know.

Why didn't you just say you didn't know.

No need to be insulted or hurt........I did, You should read my post instead of look at it.

And if I over each my skillset, I'm sure you'll straighten me out.

I'm neither insulted nor hurt.

You said, "I myself never heard of a "manager projects".

To me, that means you don't know.

As I said, it's semantics and no one knows how butchered the language is. It's obviously foreign and the OP has no clue what it means either.

I gave my honest assessment of the words offered.

You, on the other hand, told him what you were personally doing and defined the terms he gave you in your own context. ("I myself am currently handling") That could be even less help to him in determining what the foreign language meaning of the terms is. You also complicated things by the introduction of a term not mentioned anywhere, until you used it.

Oh well, he should ask for clarification from the author of the document; a fact on which I'm sure we agree.

Your examples are fine. Maybe they'll help.

First, I must make some important conditional statements.

You might be looking at a collection of typographic errors with no difference in meaning at all is intended. If the author intended two different concepts using just a transposition of nearly identical terms then this is an obfuscating document.

The only parsing I can grasp of a difference in the meanings of these two word phrases is the following: A "project manager" is an individual tasked with handling the business decisions to complete an action, the project. This project, like all projects, will eventually end. Many companies will have several projects to be accomplished and therefore many project managers. These project managers (and possibly their minions) will be collectively grouped into a "projects" department. The individual tasked with handling the business decisions of which project manager gets a new project, company resources, etc. is the manger projects. This job position will only end when the company ends.

Depends on the company of professionals I'm in, I can be looked at as a Program Manager, Project Manager or a Project Minion..... I have thought of it that way, but never used those words.......well put.

I have seen both terms used. I believe the contentious one i.e. "manager projects" is applied to the person managing the projects department/division/section - this person would have project managers reporting to him/her. Searching job sites for "manager projects" would probably give you some further insight into what such people do.

Thanks, I prefer your detailed explanation, as I encountered this two terms from the document prepared by a US based company, and what you mentioned is quite fitting into the context.

In my experience, different companies have different job titles, so, to me, the difference can only be learned from the company requiring the person to fill the job. There are no set "rules" for job titles, just what someone needs to get done and how they want to describe the position. The only true way to get a definition is to apply and get an interview so it can be explained to you.

So saying, I have been a "project manager" handling up to 11 distinct projects at time. So, again, it all depends on the company requiring a position to be filled.

That's the way i interpret that.

Doesn't the proposal have a glossary of terms or otherwise demarcate the 2 positions?

Ask the proposal's author.

2x10⁶ rupees/year?

Should be written as Manager: Projects.

This would be the Manager responsible for the "Project Department" and could have a number of Project Managers as subordinates.

Do not know your locations, but there is one other term where basically it all comes together that's called the Project Management Office commonly known as PMO, with some variances.....

If what you stated is correct, if anything that is what it derived from.

Titles are a game of semantics, more often than not a requirement of HR to justify part of their jobs. It is a mixture of elements of several games: Chess; Checkers; Pin the tail on the Donkey; and Monopoly. What most forget is that the work has to get done no matter what you call the personnel that do it or manage those who actually put the minds or hands to it.

Project manager is the person who manages one to numerous projects. A manager projects (more easily understood if expressed as manager of projects) is the manager who has overall responsibility for all projects through the efforts of the project managers.

Once worked for a firm that only had only four levels: associate; engineer (supervisor for non-engineering positions); manager and the one person with the title of president . Worked out well. Much better than the banking industry which has numerous inflated titles and levels.

Good Luck, Old Salt