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Speed of USB

05/04/2014 11:53 PM

My last few attemps at posting a question to the forum was rejected because the program could not process my request. I recall someone else voicing a similar complaint about not being able to post. This is my fourth attempt.

Normally a comment to an existing thread goes right thru. Any ideas

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05/05/2014 12:34 AM

It's been a persistent and frustrating problem here with attempted posts timing out....the work around is to just click the back arrow on your browser, highlight and copy your post, continue the back arrow clicking until you are back to the post you hit reply on, and repost your ditty in one svelte swoop...

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05/05/2014 12:45 AM

Easier said than done. After my fourth stroke I find my vision impaired and my hand eye co-ordination slow. It takes me a long time to correct all the typing errors and double check the edit. Do I just give up trying to post? My LCD screen is damaged so it takes a while to reposition the image to read around the blank portions.

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05/05/2014 2:01 AM

Other method: Compose off-line in Notepad or something; then copy/paste the whole post into the CR4 window.

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05/05/2014 2:53 AM

CR4 would not allow me to paste. After several tries I get two messages. One warns me I am posting off page and the second message tells me to keep right clicking. This is where my co-ordination fails me. black keys on black background is hard to see and my fingers cant tell where they are placed. ( stroke damage I guess)

I finally succeeded in posting my original question on about the fifth attempt.

I am about ready to give up on CR4. No other forum givesme thisamount ofgrief.

BTW the screen will not allow me to scrolll down to the submit or edit button. I have to engage in more time wasing workaround.

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05/05/2014 8:14 AM

1. Compose your posting in a word processor, such as Microsoft Word or many others, in it. Spell check it (word processor have much better spell checkers than CR4's) and make changes until you are satisfied with it. Highlight this text and with the right mouse button and "copy" it.

2. Go the point in CR4 that you want your "fresh" text to appear. Press the right mouse button and "paste" it into the CR4 section. You are done.

Alternate #2, Put both programs up on the same screen at one time, the word processor and the CR4 section that you want to make your entry in. Highlight the work processor text and push the left mouse button and continue to hold it down. "Drag" the highlighted text from the word processor box to the CR4 box. Release the left mouse button. You now have the text from the word processor in the CR4 message box or other location that you want it in. This method is the "drag text" method listed at the top of each reply box of the Reply section.

This is the method that was used to compose and manipulate this entry.

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05/05/2014 11:50 AM

Its the right click part that doesn't seem to work for me but all that aside my original question concerning USB speed control seems to have gotten buried. The problems I have with health issues and the limitations of a cracked 12" screen are secondary.

All of the suggestions are valid but very difficult to accomplish while lying flat on my back trying to hold up the laptop so I can see it and manipulate that stupid little red button mouse. Now its a race against time before the program times out.

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05/05/2014 12:07 PM

I'll try again. I can't help you with the USB speed right now but maybe this is clearer:

1. Compose your posting in a word processor, such as Microsoft Word or many others, in it. Spell check it (word processor have much better spell checkers than CR4's) and make changes until you are satisfied with it and with the right mouse button and "copy" it.. Highlight this text by placing the mouse slightly to the left of the first character and pressing the left button. While pressing the left mouse button drag the mouse down till it is slightly to the right of the last character you want to copy. Release the left button and press the right button and release. Within the box that appears, click on the "copy" line with the left button and release the button.

2. Go the point in CR4 that you want your "fresh" text to appear. Press the right mouse button and select "paste". It is now placed where your mouse is located in the CR4 section. You are done.

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05/05/2014 2:42 AM

THANKS but this is still confusing. My original question which was rejected by the CR4 software concerned where the circuit components resided that controlled the USB speed. I use an old Lenovo X61s laptop. About every hour I get a warning message saying this device can run faster. ??? The laptop has 7 USB sockets however nothing is plugged in. A trouble shooting tip tells me to go to device manager for trouble shooting. this shows two groups of four USB ports for atotalof eight. Where is the missing port? More to the point do I need to download a driver?
My half dozen memory sticks are labelled as to what speed they will run at. That begs the question as to whether a chip in the stick sets the speed or is it something in the laptop firmware?
Lastly what triggers the warning message about a non existing device being capable of running faster?
Sign me confused.

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05/05/2014 2:59 AM

I found that refreshing the editing page just before previewing for posting solved that problem for me. But I can't guarantee that all browsers will preserve edit content on refreshing. Try it on something expendable. S.M.

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05/05/2014 3:03 AM

Thatb wipedout the wholemessage.

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05/05/2014 3:05 AM

Now I feel rushed and flustered tryingtorace the software timeout.Aarregh!!!!

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05/05/2014 3:11 AM

I use Firefox and Ubuntu and it works 100%. Got tired fighting with Bill's garbage. S.M.

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05/05/2014 3:20 AM

I can sympathise but I salvaged this laptop on its way to a dumpster. Beggars can't be choosers. After the rent is paid I have $200 left for food for the month. No money for upgrades or repairs. So I play with what I cann get. After nearly two years lying on my back its nice to finally have internet access again.

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05/06/2014 6:34 AM

I'm also using Ubuntu(Linux) and Firefox(browser) and it is stable and fast on my old "recycled" hardware. Even if I wanted to use Microshaft's bugware, XP is no longer secure and Win7 (and up) would refuse to install (or run VERY slowly).

I suggest you recruit a nerdy friend to install Linux on your computer. The USB messages will go away. The improvement in stability and speed are usually sufficient reasons, but there are also numerous features which can assist users with physical and/or visual limitations.

I've had some CR4 posting time-out and spell-check errors also. For anything over one or two sentences, I normal compose in the Linux equivalent of "notepad" (gedit is actually MUCH nicer) and simply cut and paste into the CR4 window. That solves all CR4 quirks for me. Best wishes.

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05/06/2014 1:46 PM

Don't think I haven't thought of linux. My problem is finding an ISO disk with the program on it. There was a time when I actually had installed UBUNTU on one of my machines. That was when we still lived near civilization and actually owned a house. Well, the economy changed, work stopped, the bank took the house and eventually we lost nearly everything. Furniture, house content, tools, computers, etc.
The stress brought on the series of strokes which led to me being an invalid. We lived in our pickup for a few months until a bear decided he liked the back of our truck and broke in to eat our food. Yeah I know about hanging food up a tree when out camping but we were parked in a friends driveway with no trees around. We had picked up some loaves of bread at the food bank so with no other place to put it we put it in the truck. The bear got it and the yeast and mustard.
We are trying to rebuild our lives far from the usual civilization. Around here I am the nerdy guy. ( such as it is) Most of the natives on the nearby reservations have cell phones for when they get into a town but few understand about computers except they have neat games to play. Linux - never heard of it, is it some kind of game? I tried downloading a copy but the server timed out after seven hours of down loading which only got 3/4 of the files. I tried to have a friend snailmail me a disk but the copy was flawed and would not load. I even contacted the shop where I gotthe original UBUNTU disk from but nthe didn not have any more and it is 500 miles away. Not exactly easy to drop in at in my situation. I can't even walk to the toilet.
To return to my original question which is equally applicable to Linux: Which chip actually controls the speed of USB.
Wikipedia has an article saying the flat A connector points to the downstream direction making the device external to the computer a source thus inplying it controls USB speed. Wiki says a host is simply a traffic cop directing which serial port goes next. For example my printer/scanner had a B connector which wiki says is the upstream direction of data flow. So did my external hard drive which again suggest it was the controlling device setting the speed.
This all makes it confusing when the error message says the device could run faster if plugged into a USB 2.0 port. There is no device plugged in, leading me to conclude the host chip inboard of the A connector must somehow be controlling the speed even though it is supposedly at the downstream end of things.
After several hours of searching and reading I still did not find a single sentence saying the USB speed is controlled by so and such a chip located here.
My second question was, can a system be upgraded to 2.0 by downloading newer drivers?
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05/06/2014 2:58 PM

If your laptop has only USB 1.0-capable ports, you will not be able to upgrade it to USB 2.0 without a hardware change. It's not just a driver that controls the USB speed; much of the functionality is in the peripheral I/O chipset. The alert you are getting is coming from the OS recognizing you are plugging a USB 2.0-capable device (such as thumb drive) into a USB 1.0 port, and annoyingly suggesting you do something about it. On a desktop PC, you might be able to add an extra card with USB 2.0 (or now even 3.0) ports, but in your laptop you are probably out of luck. Sorry for the let-down. The bigger issue is how to get it to stop squawking at you about it, and I don't have an answer for that.

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05/26/2014 3:16 PM

I picked up a copy of Ubuntu user mag a couple of months ago $6 or so, I think it's published bi monthly or quarterly, it had a 2 sided disk 32 bit version on one,64 bit on other. PM me, I think I can copy it and mail it. As far as the USB...some computers USB controllers control different ports at different speeds...on my desktop the ones on the front run slower than the ones on the back. Drivers are for specific devices you plug in.

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05/05/2014 9:10 AM

As I said before, copy long thoughtful replies (select and Ctl C). When it kicks you out, go back and reply again and this time paste it back in. This shouldn't be necessary for snide remarks, which take less time.

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