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How Much Can MRI, and PET, Neuroimaging Machines Magnify.

06/10/2014 9:58 PM

Question 2. How much can the most advanced FMRI, PET, CT, Digital Holographic Microscopy,and the Bruker made BioSpec 170/25 FMRI machine, or others magnify a image in the human brain non-invasively, or invasively.

Can these machines see a clear image in the human, ape, or mouse brain up to 100 microns small, or smaller up to 10 microns invasively, or non-invasively, and see the electro chemicals communicating with each other in real time like in a movie,not a still photograph.Can you see the neurons firing, and communicating with each other in real time like in amovie clip, or can you just see the neurons in the hippocampus in still image photographs.

Is the 3 photon microscopy technique that is used to see through the layers of brain tissuein a mouses brain, to get as close to the hippocampus as possible, can thistechnique be done in a living mouse, or just a non living mouse brain.Also if you were going to use 3 photon microscopy on a human.

Is the problem of the thickness of the human skull, the biggest problem, because 3 photon microscopy can only see around 1.7mm in depth in the mouses brain, do you have to remove the skull on the mouses brain, to get more depth to see into the brain of the mouse.

The shortest route to the hippocampus from the surface of the skull in a human, is probably two and a half , to three inches going in from the side if the head, rarther than the top of the head, I think it is a shorter distance going in from the side of the head.

So if you could increase the depth of your microscopy equipment to be able to penetrate up to three inches, you should be able to see whats happening in the human hippocampus, to see the firing, and communicating of neurons, when youshow the person certain kinds of stimulus.

Also Will the yet to be built, INUMAC FMRI machine be able to see into the brain better in real time.

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Re: How Much Can MRI, and PET, Neuroimaging Machines Magnify.

06/11/2014 1:22 PM

Magnification in an imaging system is determined by the ratio of the distances from the illuminating source ( light, X-ray, etc ) to the object, and from the object to the image (detector or receptor). Commonly referred to as SOD and SID.

Point sources are theoretical, and every current source has a definite size and profile. ( N-med and MRI notable exceptions however, there are other factors restricting their resolutions )

One considers the relative size of the source, object, and distance separating the detectors in order to calculate basic resolution. The Principle involved is that radiated energy diverges from a point source in a uniform manner, and that an object occluding or absorbing the radiant energy will produce a shadow that measures larger and larger as the distance from object to detector increases. This is why there are practical limits to the size of machines such as CT. for one, the amount of energy required in the beam reduces by the square of the distance, so there are limits to the amount of energy one can reasonably expose the object to, without harming it.

While detectors can be made with increasingly smaller dimensions in order to space them more closely for better resolution, there comes a trade off in sensitivity as the available sensor material decreases. Again this is a problem with conversion of the available energy to a useable output. Operating within the safe limits of object radiation exposure is a factor in this limitation.

As object - to - image distance ( and magnification ) increases, there increase possible sources of noise and signal interference - signal degradations, although most systems are tuned to the specific radiation invloved, with a tolerance ( not a perfect sensor ).

Imaging in most modes is a transmissive measurement, where the variation in expected radiation recieved is used to compare densities shapes and positions of objects within the radiation field. For Emissive technologies such as N-med, the objects themselves become the source, and different detection methods are used than those of X-ray for example, and have their own limiting factors, one of which is also safe dose to the object.

So you see there is much to consider in learning how the various technologies produce their images - suffice it to say that while research into better imagers continues, we are far from the resolutions you desire for now.

Bear in mind that imaging something is never non-invasive in terms of affecting the object in some way. The process of observation almost invariably produces changes in the object observed. For live studies, this limits the application of these technologies to levels well within the patients' abilities to endure the imaging without harm. Subjecting a person to radiation for an extended time in order to observe minute functions such as you propose using CURRENT technologies would likely pose an unacceptable risk of harm to the individual.

Good luck in your search for these answers.

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