Blue Crete Claimed Superior to Concrete. "Green"

PESWiki. 'Nuff said. Blue Crete ought to come from Canea.

I seriously think this is without merit.

I doubt that any of your citations from free energy web sites will be taken seriously here.

I do not respect closed minds.

now thats not nice....

Mothers are nice.

I guess it takes darkness to appreciate light.

In the interest of fair play: www.blueworldcrete.com.

They could use a copy editor who knows the differences between "affect" and "effect". If they'd pay me enough, I'd do it.

The target audience probably doesn't know the difference anyway.

I note in that link that they don't really go into the mechanism of how it works. A lot of sizzle but no bacon to be found.

A few years ago I posted the link to a Ted site which suggested stabilizing sand dunes with a bacteria and cheap sugar...sorgum molasses for instance or contaminated sugar water of some kind. A little out there I thought at the time, but certainly do-able. It uses a very common bacterium which dies after its food supply is cut off. Under a microscope each bacterium resembles a tiny spikey little shell which interlaces with its neighbours to produce a form of sandstone. No real mystery, seems that it happens "in the wild" all the time. Since then, I have seen examples of the same process being used to stabilize roads, repair cracks in bridges, and even repair damaged statues. Do you suppose this blue world concrete is the same stuff? The fact that it suggests the use of limestone implies to me that this is a company which is trying to use a proven, but nearly unknown technology.

If so, then good on them. If they are just being bullshit scam artists looking for "seed" money to finance their trip to the Bahamas, then shame on them. I suspect the former, but we will never know from their slick web site.

Link to the TED site....

www.ted.com/talks/magnus_larsson_turning_dunes_into_architecture

"The Pure Energy Systems Wiki (PESWiki) is a wiki dedicated to "Finding and facilitating breakthrough clean energy technologies." In practice, this means cranks pushing perpetual motion machines and purported free energy systems. So, in a sense, it does promote "clean energy" in that the wiki itself generates a huge magnetic force that pulls in cranks from all corners of the internet."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PESWiki

Sterling D. Allan CEO of Pure Energy Systems(peswiki)

http://shutdownrossi.com/rossis-partners-investors/sterling-allan/fraud-alert-pesn-sterling-allan-involved-in-scam-on-12-04-2012/

All sorts of neat stuff on this PECwiki web site. One project that caught my attention was a group calling themselves Blue Eagle Alchemy. They claim to be able to create gold from beer bottles (at a yield of 400 oz./ton) using a microwave oven and their "patent pending" process.

Of course they are looking for select investors so they can bring their process up to production scale. Unfortunately, I don't have any money to invest, but I do have plenty of beer bottles.

Bill Gates, look out. Here I come!

I can send them a truck load of beer bottles once a month, if they pay for shipping.

Maybe we should get together, Lyn. With a little cooperation, between us, we can corner the beer bottle market.

I decided to recycle my bottles, once. 3 large garbage cans full of bottles fetched $3.80.

Now, when the garbage truck comes for the blue, recycle barrel, the sound of cascading beer bottles fills the neighborhood.

I'm doing my part for the environment.

Yeah but you need the right bottles....

...and they have gold in them....

What comes out is gold.

The problem is with these bottles, all the gold inside them ends up going down the toilet.

Enough of this thread. I'm going into the other room and watch the World Cup on TV and add to my hoard of beer bottles. Hasta la vista, amigos.

The World Cup is for tea drinkers.

NASCAR's racing at Michigan today. Speeds over 200 MPH. So much noise you can't hear anything.

Correction:
NASCAR is for drinkers of lite beers.
World Cup is for drinkers of strong ales.

RadCon (a science fiction and fantasy convention in Tri-Cities, WA, USA) is for drinkers of "Upriver" (before Hanford) and "Downriver" (after Hanford). The latter is a fulminating brew of obscure provenance, tasty but probably unhealthful.

The Blue Crete office is located in Mumbai. Not very far from home. If any one from our forum needs to investigate their credentials I can surely help them.

Looking forward to your investigations, and pictures would help!

Here is their website:http://www.blueworldcrete.com/

I would personally love to find out if the questions I raised in my previous post can be answered. I think they are just using the bacillum subtillus culture found here.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-11/modified-bacterial-glue-can-shore-cracking-concrete

Thanks for your information Yusef1, it is appreciated. I would imagine that you would have to add nutrients to the mix if you wanted to proliferate the bacteria. It is a secret process, at least they are not offering their technique. It seems to be a going business though. If their claims are valid it could be revolutionary. I will try to learn more.

Hardly revolutionary. But a good tool to put in any civil engineer's tool kit. There are problems...apparently it is a smelly process...the by-products include a LOT of ammonia mixed with whatever impurities in the sugar nutrients used. It has to be used, like, right away, or it just goes to rot in the tanks, and although natural, may well cause a temporary ecological upset and contaminate wells, ditches and so forth. But...it is cheap, does not need a great factory to manufacture cement so it is less CO2 productive than burnt bricks or burnt cement, and when it starts to make its little shells, it becomes very nearly CO2 neutral.

It can be used to stabilize sand dunes, hill sides, and a host of other uses which would be prohibitively expensive with concrete, and the resultant stone is at least as strong as an all natural soft limestone. One of the "secrets" is that you have to keep getting oxygen to the bacteria (it is an animal after all) so it works best if you inject it from the bottom up rather than just soaking a roadway. Compaction seems to help too. It doesn't seem to work on a lot of clays. You need calcium in the mix. Usually diatomonous clay seems good enough. Experiments with local conditions would, as usual, be a very good idea to make sure all the elements are in balance.

Now you know as much as I know... grin!

Thanks Yusef! I seem to remember them talking about using coal ash, which would be a great use for it. It has a habit of breaking out of holding areas and getting into rivers. Some major spills have occured recently and in the last few years. I hope it is used successfully.

I would not have thought coal ash would have a lot of calcium in it...but I can see it being used in a mix. Fly ash is a commodity containing valuable minerals, and is refined. Coal ash "might" have enough calcium in it to work. It seems an ideal material for this purpose. Slag is used in a thousand places, mostly along railroads. The coal ash is the "problem" and this may well be "the solution".

I hope they are not just being slick to get money from governments and foundations who don't care about the environment, but DO care about looking good.

On a not very related note, has anybody seen one of the ten ton Vanadium batteries being built to delay power delivery from uber solar arrays? Apparently Hawaii and Southern California are good candidates for this tech. (Why is this relevant? Well, its another nearly unknown technology which could be a game changer in the latter half of the 21st century. We live in exciting times!)