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Breaker Question

09/14/2014 1:03 AM

Hi, Im Just a newbei, can you suggest how can I Know designated current capacity for a breaker that i will use. What are the parameters to be considered?

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09/14/2014 6:00 AM

The first issue is getting people to understand the question. Can you explain a little more ? I can't speak for anyone else, but I have no idea at all about what you are asking. Add some more detail, and I'm sure that somebody here can give you what you want.

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09/14/2014 8:08 AM

First, one has to know the electric power source you will be using. The region a system will be used will often identify the local power grid capabilities but many times other electric power sources (battery, vehicle alternator, solar panel, etc.) maybe used.

Second, one must know the load this electric power will be operating. If it is a dedicated circuit then often the manufacturer of the device to be operated will have relevant information about which parts should be used to drive their product. If it is not a dedicated circuit then the standard conventions of local wiring codes will be the guide to follow.

Lastly, to follow relevant wiring codes the environment (explosive gas, salt water, rain, ice, earthquake, direct burial, vacuum, etc.) this circuit resides will determine which parts of the code should be followed.

Each of these three overly simplified steps can have many sub-steps depending on the application. You should notice that your question gives us absolutely no information at all in each of these three greatly simplified steps.

Hire an approved electrician or electrical engineer to do this work. The lives you save will be grateful.

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09/15/2014 12:41 AM

GA, Fred. Seems they're not sure of what their doing, so the only safe answer is just what you said.

Be safe and Hire an certified electrician and go to school to learn the fundamentals of electricity. Always stray on the safe side of life.

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09/14/2014 8:58 AM

CODE. CODE. Or CODES. CODES. As red said, it's all there.

We use NFPA/IEC/BS/IEEE or whatever the local flavor is.

Google circuit protection and read.

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09/14/2014 10:14 AM

I'd just use a 500 amp breaker and avoid nuisance resets

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09/14/2014 3:34 PM

Those resulting cable fires are a bit of a nuisance thou aren't they?

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09/19/2014 5:32 PM

And see his house from afar when the fire rages

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09/14/2014 12:38 PM

Consider the electrical code.

Consider not to touch anything.

Consider to read up on breakers as a way forward.

Consider an electrical engineer or certified electrician for calculation and installment

Consider the lethal force of electricity.

Internet search is a pretty thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker

What is your intent? Why would you want to know?

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09/14/2014 12:45 PM

current capacity is mentioned on the breaker that you will use. Tripping characteristics, Short circuit fault level withstanding level rating, voltage rate, setting of over current long and shirt time, instantaneous current and time, earth fault/ground fault setting, Frame size, rated current, 3 pole/4pole etc are the parameters to be considered.

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09/14/2014 2:22 PM

Without knowing the applicable codes governing electrical installation and years of experience required to do it properly, you should not attempt any unsupervised installation of, or materials or component selection for, any electrical circuitry or device....

http://www.schneider-electric.us/documents/support/codes-and-standards/circuit-breaker-markings-iaei.pdf

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09/14/2014 3:42 PM

Here is a rule-of-thumb you could go by. Whatever the maximum current flow is, go with a breaker that is 20% greater. That means going up one breaker size (15, 20, 25, 30). You must also up the wire size that will handle the maximum current.

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09/14/2014 7:45 PM

220V is the Electrical Source, the load i 20A. I will use AWG #12 for wire. Is 20A breaker is applicable to use???

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09/14/2014 8:32 PM

No 30A #10...

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09/14/2014 10:04 PM

No, you just would come back to ask for an auto reset breaker.

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09/15/2014 10:21 AM

Standard breakers should not be used for more then 80% of their load rating. Though the breaker is rated for 20 amps that load rating is for short term not to accede 3 hours.

So you will need to use the next size up which is 30 amps. Same with the wire you shouldn't put more the 80% of the load rating on it for long durations. If you increase the breaker size you increase the wire or the wire will fry before the breaker trips.

Breaker is to protect the wire not the device powered by it.

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09/15/2014 10:28 AM

You described the wire in American Wire Gauge, which is only used in America, to the best of my knowledge. The Metric world describes wire size in cross/sectional area, square millimeters.

220V could be either industrial, commercial, or residential wiring, there are typically different electrical codes for each type of installation, with industrial being more strict than commercial and commercial being more strict than residential. A multi-unit apartment building must follow at least commercial level building codes.

I would Strongly Recommend (which is Engineer-speak for 'I cannot order you do do something, but follow this as if it were a direct order') that you talk with a friendly local Electrician, Union Electrician if you can find one. They will be able to help you out with your project much better than a bunch of semi-anonymous yahoos (of which I am one) providing snarky answers to poorly-worded and ambiguous questions.

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09/14/2014 10:37 PM

There should be a number on the breaker right before the "A".

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09/15/2014 12:17 AM

Hopefully she can help?

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09/15/2014 4:31 AM

It's all in the applicable local electricity standards, for example British Standard 7671 for the UK. If in doubt, hire a qualified local Electrician.

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