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Kohler Generator

10/11/2014 2:13 PM

I recently posted a question about an Onan. Though I received good feedback from everyone I was not able to identify the problem. For now I will set it aside and comeback to it when there is more time to troubleshot.

I also have a diesel 60 to 70 kw Kohler. However I'm having trouble starting it and getting any line voltage once it is started.

It has set for a while, more then a year without running. I am told that the magnetic field relating to the exciter may be dead or needs a 12 volt boost of some kind to get it going. I am totally out of my element here.

What I do know is there is a toggle prime switch that was momentarily held down and then you would push the starter switch until it started. You would need to push and hold it in for 30 to 60 seconds or more and then it would start and run. Until then no sound (except the operator complaining about holding in the switch).

Now there is no starting at all regardless of how many times and for how long the switch is held. I was able to start it by jumping the small solenoid in the control panel. Just a touch and it immediately roared into action. However, no 480 v produced. Across any two leads it showed only 12 volts and after 5 minutes it shut itself down.

There were 3 small fuses just inside the front of the generator cage but they read good. Should someone be able to provide some insight it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again

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10/11/2014 3:27 PM

The hold-down switch probably bypasses the oil failure switch until pressure has time to build.

You say no sound. Is the engine turning over? If not, probably low battery.

Your generator manual may describe "flashing the field" to restore residual magnetism. Because of the long idle time, this makes sense.

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10/11/2014 4:12 PM

Thanks for the reply. About the battery, using two fully charged 12 volt to make 24 volt. Have learned from past experience you are right, if voltage is 23 volts it will not start.

However it has never turned over in the past, no sound at all until it decides to start, then it is all of a sudden nearly at full throttle. Never seen that on anything else, while holding the start switch in it is always a surprise when it starts. Usually 30 to 90 seconds later.

I do not have any kind of manual or schematic to tell me how to "flash the field". I have tried to find something all over the internet but they seem to be available only for newer models. Thanks again for the input.

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10/11/2014 4:51 PM

I didn't see anything specifically for your model, but this website: http://www.smokstak.com/forum/archive/index.php/f-25-p-6.html

seems to have a lot of info on Kohler generators.

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10/11/2014 4:56 PM

Sounds like the button you hold down then wait for the engine to start is for the glow plugs. You do not say how old this unit is, but, older diesel's had glow plugs that were used to fire the diesel until the engine got turning to warm the cylinder heads, then the glow plugs were no longer needed.

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10/12/2014 2:56 PM

Exactly, it's old enough to require a manual preheat step, 60 seconds is about right. If it still doesn't start you need to check that the glow plug and its circuitry is working properly. They do burn out and you'll never get it started.

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10/12/2014 3:07 PM

Thanks guys, on my way to try out the advice.

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