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Low Pressure Heat Of Compression Air Dryer.

12/08/2014 12:23 AM

Hi. I have a small air sepration unit. For this unit I want 4000 meter cube per hour dry air with -40 deg cent (-40 deg Fahrenheit). Air Pipe line size is 250 nb. We wanted to design low pressure heat of compression air dryer. The inlet air pressure is 0.3 to 0.5 barg and temperature 105 to 120 degree centigrade (220 to 248 deg Fahrenheit ) with minimum pressure drop of 0.02-0.03 barg. so does anybody can help us to design the dryer parameters like quantity of alumina balls per tower, tower diameter and height, air velocity in towers , contact time , capacity of heat exchanger ect. Thanks.

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12/08/2014 1:02 AM

What is the Air pipe size in [nb]? What is low pressure heat?

Sounds like you need to do more research and/or hire a consultant.

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12/08/2014 2:03 AM

Do you have any consultant, send me a contact detail. I am really interested. Thanks.

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12/08/2014 2:32 AM

I can do this for a proper fee!

My day rate aint cheap!

You might want to get a few proposals in before you decide that I do this!

I take payment in advance as well for unknown customers.

PM me if you need more details!

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12/09/2014 11:47 AM

I think he means mm, not nb (which could be a typographical error). I fail to understand how sub-atmospheric pressure air is being heated? Are you heating the low pressure air to that temperature, THEN compressing?

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12/08/2014 1:32 PM

I'm guessing you want a "low pressure dessicant type air dryer, -40 dew point, using heat of compression to regenerate"????

Just as a reference point, for anyone to do anything with this they will also need to know:

  1. what is the desired outlet air temperature.
  2. what are the ambient conditions (temperature, humidity)
  3. what is the moisture content of the incoming air
  4. what is the colour of the inlet pipe
  5. out of curiosity, how do you get that temperature with 0.3 to 0.5 barg compression- a figure that would be more normally associated with 10 barg (approx. 150 psi) compressor output range?
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12/08/2014 2:53 PM

So why aren't you ringing the original equipment manufacturer for advice? Sheeeeesh!

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12/09/2014 6:31 AM

JNB hints at what you need to know (although myself I am puzzled why the colour of the inlet pipe is required?). You have given some details but all is needed. ie.

Ambient air (is it?) but definitely inlet air conditions, ie, temperature, pressure and relative humidity (or dewpoint) and flow are required.

And the same for outlet temperature, pressure, dewpoint and flow - and duration of flow (intermittent are continuous).

Keep away from consultants at the moment - a consultant is a person who knows who to consult - and they will charge you a lot for asking the same questions.

From the sparse info given, the solution of your problem points to a desiccant type dryer, that basically becomes one of regenerating the desiccant - maybe using the heat of compression as hinted in the title.

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12/09/2014 7:49 AM

Bah, all you do is to make OP aware of what he needs to tell me so I can do my job!

Cheers for this!

He will still need a consultant unless you want to tell him here and now without payment what he is about to purchase!

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12/09/2014 8:11 AM

The colour of the inlet pipe is EXTREMELY important at this stage. Shhhh!

Ambient air conditions may reflect inlet (to compressor) conditions, but are also required for heat losses- is this located outdoors in Saudi Arabia or outdoors in Norway?

And to be specific, I should have said "sorbtion type" instead of generalizing "dessicant type", as the OP specified alumina balls.

Lastly, I should have said search air dryer manufacturers on IHS!

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12/09/2014 10:25 AM

Thanks for reply. The atmospheric conditions are as follows. Ambient temperature 40 deg. Centigrade. Cooling water temperature 32 degree centigrade. Average humidity 60-80 % Atmospheric air pressure 1013.25 hpa

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12/09/2014 4:56 PM

A pressure of 0.5 bar suggests you have a blower. A temperature 120C cannot be generated by a 0.5 bar blower from an ambient of 40C. A pressure of at least 1 bar would be required.

Maybe you get your air from a 'compressor' and regulate it down to 0.5 bar. What is the highest air pressure you have available to start with?. Your 0.5 bar will be lost in pressure drop when you start installing desiccant beds, pipes and valves.

Do you have any 'spare' air, and a source of heat (in addition to the heat of compression) you can use for purging the desiccant bed.?

An ambient of 40C and an RH of 80% relates to 44.33 g/m3. At 4000 m3/hr, that's 177kg of water an hour to get rid of.

Basic desiccant has a water capacity ratio of about 1:20% so you need just short of a ton of desiccant per hour. Put another way, 2 vessels with a ton of desiccant each will be needed for duty/purge on a 1 hour cycle.

Vessel volume for a ton will be about 0.5 m3. Length about 5 x Diameter.

These dimensions +reduce about pro-rata as working pressure (absolute) increases. but so does the temperature increase, which needs cooling before hitting the desiccant, where an air/air heat-exchanger can be used to remove the heat for purging.

You now have enough basic info to rough out design your own dryer system. If you are stuck on detail then call on IdeaSmith post 7. ..... and also on JNB post 8 for guidance on inlet pipe colour.....most important !

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12/10/2014 11:47 PM

Thanks for reply . Could anyone suggest me an equation of pressure drop of molecular sieve bed and air contact time with molecular sieve bed according to air flow and size of molecular sieve.

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12/11/2014 9:44 AM

2-3 telephone calls to the vendors might be more help to you than we can be.

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12/11/2014 2:51 PM

Too many unknown variables and too low working pressure is your problem.

Go to a dryer manufacturer and tell them you want air at your stated pressure, temperature, flow and dew-point, (assume 100%RH at inlet to dryer), and get them to quote.

This will give you some idea if it can be done, and if they can do it, they will tell you what the inlet pressure must be (the pressure drop), how much air is needed for purge, and the power for reheat - and a price.

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