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Earthing and Electric Code in Singapore

12/19/2014 12:36 PM

Warm Greetings to All,

I was wondering if Earthing is required EVERYWHERE in the Electric System in Singapore or if it's only required in certain locations.

Also, was wondering where I could obtain a copy of the Electrical Codes and Standards for Singapore's Electric system.

Many thanks for your cooperation.

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Re: Earthing and Electric Code in Singapore

12/19/2014 3:27 PM

None of the electrical systems in an automobile have to be earthed.

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12/19/2014 3:48 PM

Thank you but I wasn't referring to automobile, I was referring to the Power industry.

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Re: Earthing and Electric Code in Singapore

12/19/2014 4:26 PM

Surely organisations like that have procedures, protocols, and inspection and test records? Why do you have to ask globally?

Hospitals often operate IT (see the Wikipedia article on earthing systems). As Singapore has hospitals, the answer to your question is therefore "no".

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12/19/2014 6:10 PM

Thank you, but the question is, would Singapore follow these same standards listed on Wikipedia? I.e. would hospitals in Singapore also operate IT or would it be a completely different system implemented there based on different standards?

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12/19/2014 6:52 PM

My GOD man!

Are you completely helpless????????????????????????????????????

Can you NOT find this information all by yourself?????????????????

This is like doing homework.

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Building & Construction Authority (BCA) Home Page

Code of practice for electrical installations - Singapore ...

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12/19/2014 9:41 PM

I already had the Singapore Standards Eshop website. If you read the page yourself, you would know that it only comes in hard copy and is for sale in Singapore only.

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12/19/2014 10:09 PM

Let's see. Engineer Here, asking questions about Singapore standards?

Never mind.

Mark Twain had this figured out.

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12/20/2014 3:33 AM

Buy a copy, then!

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12/19/2014 7:46 PM

There will certainly be some locations in Singapore that do not follow any code or standard for a variety of good and bad reasons. There will also be many locations fully compliant to the latest approved wiring codes. I would not be surprised that there are many buildings with both compliant and non-compliant wiring.

Now, what is the problem?

Really, how can we help?

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12/19/2014 9:50 PM

Thanks anyways.

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12/19/2014 3:51 PM

It's only required if you do not want to kill people or burn buildings.

Change your name, you're not there yet.

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12/19/2014 3:59 PM

Actually, Earthing is not required in all locations in the U.S. itself. I was wondering if Singapore would be the same.

You're not the one to decide if I should change my name.

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12/20/2014 2:01 AM

As it was ruled by britishers,use BS or IEC.

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12/22/2014 11:19 AM

Thank you, very useful. Are you sure about this, i.e. is this a fact or are you assuming?

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12/20/2014 6:01 AM

Singapore would always care for safety of its citizens. I am sure earthing as safety device must be applicable for all electric systems used by human beings,

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12/20/2014 6:16 AM

All human beings do not practice same principles or practices,they differ from community to community,region to region,country to country,culture to culture, religion to religion. Earlier days music,dance,dress,alphabet, language, religion, food preparation,taste etc differed but after travellers introduced culture to another and european colonies born,people learnt common languages like english,french, spanish and world became smaller and communities closer.But still electrical standards differ from country to country in developed world because they produced scientists and inventors. Even today look at plugs and sockets,contactors,relays,CBs,fuses etc- how many types, models,sizes,ratings, voltages,frequencies are used all over the world.They are unable to standardise but mechanical items like anti-friction bearings have common sizes.

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12/20/2014 6:33 AM

I am referring to Singapore not whole world. I know Singapore as I had visited and know their general laws.

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12/20/2014 9:37 AM

I have no doubt that you are familiar with Singapore. You may have even done some power distribution consulting in Singapore. You also know all of the following arguments have been heard on a work site, but only one is truly compelling:

  • My friend, Fred, told me I could wire ....
  • This is the way I saw it done at ...
  • Some guys on an engineering blog said ...
  • Wikipedia says ....
  • My supervisor told me ...
  • Here is my copy of the (relevant) code. Open the book to this section. It says ...

There is also the authorized and non-authorized inconsistencies that happen with any construction. There are also legacy issues that happen within an old structure. With Earthing being part of the topic, there are also plausible concerns of corrosion between soil and electrode.

As my automobile reference and others have pointed out with some medical facilities, there are many electric systems that cannot or should not be Earthed. It then depends on what type and location of an electric system is being considered if and how it should be Earthed. It appears that the OP cannot or just will not identify (even generically) which electric system they are wondering about.

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12/21/2014 5:04 AM

Thanks for your compliments. I am mechanical engineer so I can not take any electrical assignments. I had participated in technical show. But the fact remains that I found Singapore a most disciplined country, clean and neat, strict about traffic laws etc. They have most beautiful tourist spots and hotels. Such country can not forget the law regarding safety of its citizens.

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12/22/2014 1:49 PM

Thank you, very good response. Could you please name the Electric systems that cannot or should not be Earthed and give an explanation why? What does OP stand for?

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12/22/2014 2:43 PM

First, OP is an abbreviation for Original Poster. That would be you.

Second, my "good response" already identified an electric system that cannot be Earthed. I cannot help somebody that will not understand what has been written.

Third, I asked for information on the type of electrical system being considered. Again, I cannot help somebody that will not understand what has been written.

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12/20/2014 8:47 AM

Its always good to do earthing if we like to stay on Earth. unless otherwise specfified by manufacturer that " Not to be Earthed"

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12/22/2014 1:53 PM

The manufacturer actually specifies "Not to be Earthed" ? Could you name some examples?

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12/20/2014 3:55 PM

Double-insulated equipment does not need to be earthed. The applicable symbol is two black squares, centred one within the other on a white background.

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12/22/2014 1:57 PM

Thank you. What is meant by Double-insulated equipment and why doesn't it need to be Earthed? Could you please name some examples?

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12/22/2014 2:42 PM

It is obvious that you are not an engineer.

It is also obvious that you want others to do your work for you.

Shame on you.

Do your own homework!

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12/22/2014 5:19 PM

You're not the one to decide. You knew more about engineering than I did then you would have come up with a legitimate answer. Speak for yourself, not others.

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12/22/2014 10:14 PM

In many thirdworld countries engineering introduced by europeans is mis-interpretted as theory or studying for degree or certificate to get a job.The work is normally done by skilled technicians and experienced foremen/supervisors. During the course of study the lecturers donot teach practical aspects due to lack of practical experience but do experiments as in chemistry or physics and write course work When they go to work they find they know nothing of practical value to instruct technicians or to check their work. Even tools or equipments used or various kinds and sizes of materials(wires,bolts, insulators,cable support systems,meters, etc & instruments used are not introduced to them. As in european countries you can't buy engineering components like toy motors etc which appears in websites. How to do a job by hand is not given importance but how to calculate is important to pass written tests. Books on practical books were not available but some were found in british council library. The easiest way to survive is loyalty(say boss is good even if he is idiot) not knowledge or output.

Caste system(degree vs diploma vs technicians,clerks) too is practiced in workplaces. Family status is important than knowledge.

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