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Opamp Shaping Amplifiers

02/02/2015 4:29 PM

Hello everybody, nowadays I am working on shaping amlifiers and need guidiance about how to design one and do its simulations before manufacturing. When googling about shaping amplifiers i found documents mostly about filters (active and passive), which as i know works for rejecting some frequencies. So pleae give me some advices to understand the shaping amplification concept. I mean how i can convert a filter to a shaping amplifier? For example designing a CR-(RC)^4 filter which seems a gaussian shaper.

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02/02/2015 4:43 PM

You can't "design" something that you know nothing about.

Certainly you could never manufacture it if you can't design it.

Designing something would require that you have knowledge of the principals involved in its operation, and what variables you could change to tune it.

Sadly, I think you do not.

Try these on for size.

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02/02/2015 4:59 PM

Are these suggestions to start?

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02/02/2015 5:14 PM

I think that you are completely lost here, and so my only advice to you is don't quit your day job.

If this is your day job, start looking for a new one.

CR-200 shaping amplifiers - Cremat

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02/02/2015 5:43 PM

It would help if we knew the name of the company so we could develop better suggestions.

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02/04/2015 4:13 AM

I am a physics student @ ITU physics engineering dep. in Turkey.

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02/02/2015 6:39 PM

A good reference is Don Lancaster's Active Filter Cookbook.

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02/04/2015 4:14 AM

yes I know this book. thank you for suggestion.

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02/02/2015 8:10 PM

What many electrical engineers consider a shaping amplifier is a non-linear amplifier. A few of these non-linear amplifiers would be a clamping, slew rate limited, logarithmic, absolute or ideal diode amplifier. What many audio engineers would consider a shaping amplifier an electrical engineer would consider an active filter design. A simple single pole passive filter design is one lecture in freshman collegiate level network theory. In this class you will discover Mr. Kirchoff, Thevenin and Norton. You must know the theories named after these men for the full semester class on multiple pole filter design that will also include active filter design.

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02/03/2015 11:13 AM

pretty fly -

As you relate to any electronic signals, its associated wavelengths and shape will come to mind.

Since a particular signal's frequency and wavelength are inter-related together with its bandwidth, you can now visualize how the signal's shapes and forms can easily be altered! As you process the signal, as in amplification as well as let them pass thru, get attenuated, or rejected certain frequency component(s), the resulting output is therefore changed, as in shape when passing through the different types electronic filters....

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02/03/2015 11:52 AM

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention.

I mean how i can convert a filter to a shaping amplifier? For example designing a CR-(RC)^4 filter which seems a gaussian shaper.

Your desired equation implies a five pole filter. Depending on where these poles reside this transfer function may oscillate continuously, excessively ring to the point of being useless, delay the signal more than needed or give you a useful signal. Then there's the added complication of component drift.

If this was my assignment I would consider cascading Mossberg-Ackerberg or Tow-Thomas topology depending on the speed of the signal response needed. Depending on how flexible this design must be a switched capacitor version of either design might be needed or even continuous Digital Signal Processing (DSP).

Getting back to the point of my initial reply, this is neither a trivial request nor unexplored territory.

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