Hello,thanks for asking.My question is, the cost of making a weld with stick arc vs a heliarc weld?A heliarc weld has to be prepared and conditions near perfect a inert gas must be used and all the consumables,tungsten the torch set up and so on.SMAW very little prep can be welded in not so perfect conditions not a lot of consumables a welding rod and a stinger.My question is the price and time difference.
Thanks again
Yes. The individuals ordering the equipment, the consumables and paying the Welder can tell the difference. I can't, because I don't have such sensitive data in front of me. You ought to be asking those individuals, because all you'll get here for such a question is wild-arsed guesses and a load of irrelevant abuse/opinions (same thing in my book).
That is not a very clear or accurate comparison. Tig is seldom used for materials as thick as stick is. Stick usually requires much more chipping to remove the flux from a weld. It also usually requires more grinding to smooth or eliminate the excess metal from the weld joint. In either type the more time spent in preparation, the less time in welding and cleaning the weld. With stick it is harder to see the molten puddle than it is with tig. Actual "welding time", not the complete process time, is usually less with stick but with other things considered there isn't much difference.
War story- once had 3 welders working for with me in our maintenance dept. 2 of them could tig a deep weld faster than the third "good welder" could ever do it with stick welding. It all depends on the skills of the personnel welding or the person setting up a welding machine and robot.
Good Luck, Old Salt
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50%. Tig (heliarc) welding requires two hands to do it. Stick (SMAC) welding only requires one hand (if you are good at it and don't have the DT's).
Therefore, 1hand/2 hands = 0.5 or 50% difference.
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By "percentage" Are you perhaps referring to balance as pertaining to heliarc (TIG) welding.
In AC TIG welding, balance is expressed as a percentage, and refers to the time that the unit is electrode positive versus electrode negative. A higher percentage electrode +ve gives greater cleaning whereas higher electrode -ve gives greater penetration. The percentage can be adjusted to anywhere from 10% to 90% either way.
Most Stick (MMA) welders are straight transformer machines that supply AC at the mains frequency to the electrode and so it will be fixed at 50% +ve and 50% -ve.
DC MMA machines can be used either electrode +ve or -ve and so will be fixed at 100% either way.