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Where Will All the Carbon Go?

Posted September 05, 2009 8:12 AM

One proposal from climate scientists that is gaining momentum is called "Carbon Capture and Sequestration" or CCS. But claims that it could significantly reduce greenhouse gases are not reassuring. It takes a lot of energy to separate carbon dioxide from utility plant emissions and then compress and liquefy it in order to store it underground. Where will the energy come from? From burning fossil fuels! Should we invest in a technology that won't be available, according to best estimates, until 2025?

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09/05/2009 11:08 PM

It would appear that on could achieve the same goal by reforesting a lot of the denuded land- for a lot lower cost. Unfortunately, there is no financial or political incentive to suggest this more cost-effective approach...

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09/05/2009 11:46 PM

If the U S government would get their head out of their ask and plant hemp, several problems would be solved.

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09/06/2009 4:15 AM

Don't worry, the accountants and bankers will magic it all away for us....
(Just like they do with our pension funds)
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Re: Where Will All the Carbon Go?

09/07/2009 12:58 AM

Where will the energy come from?

Question is very valid. To do this conversion will nned further energy, unless it is pure chemical action, achieved by using naturally available chemicals.

Thus, only way to reduce the global warming is to reduce the utilization of all the resources!

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09/07/2009 12:43 PM

I went to a dicussion on this subject held at the university of Birmingham, UK, in march this year. Here in the UK they are talking about deposititng CO2 taken from industry into old oil wells under the North sea!

When sombody asked about a financial reveiw of this project, we were informed that no such reveiw existed to date. We were told that any costs would be met by the "Tax-Payer", when it was pointed out that this would be impossible, as the ordinary tax-payer was already paying too much, they said that the costs would not be very great in the long run?

I have not yet heard any more about the costs, and who would be expected to pick up the bill!!!

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09/07/2009 12:48 PM

See #3

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09/07/2009 1:44 AM

Anyone who has worked for any lenght of time in China can testify that of all the worst offenders ( that includes the well known Los Angeles " haze " ) Mainland China takes the cake.The number of days wherein one never sees the sun except for a faint (very faint) brown blur in the sky should indeed be : where the setting of the so called Copenhagen World Pollution Council take place.

No one knows what will come out of this talk- fest, but the far reaching re-apportionment of clean -up costs is likely to bedevil many generations in the West.Whilst Del the Cat 's comments may be receiving negative votes for making an off-topic statement the impositions we are all likely to suffer from it all will ,ultimately ,give his remarks top marks

In passing may I add that in all of these threads I have yet to see some remarks about who is ,or will , eventually become responsable (in this sudden, but likely to be costly , world clean up movement) for the emissions of natural polluters i.e. volcanoes ? Most of the countries wherein these natural polluters belch them out are , in the main : poor countries ?

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09/15/2009 7:09 PM

Correct.

Between Mt. Pinatubo, and Mt. St. Helens, the two most prominent eruptions I can think of at the moment, more CO, CO2, and SO2 was pumped into the atmosphere than mankind's total contribution throughout history.

So what will be the carbon tax on that?

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09/07/2009 7:05 PM

This could very easily be my poor memory about how sequestration and oil extraction works. So if this is wrong please be kind in correcting me.

I remember that often a liquid or gas is deliberately pumped into a fading well to improve the yield. It would be elegant if liquid or gaseous carbon dioxide could be used to drive more oil out. Oil companies are already willing to invest the power into pumping something down a well to get more oil. Why not utilize the troublesome waste product to our advantage.

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