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Are Engineering Shortages a Hoax?

Posted July 03, 2010 7:52 AM

Those who employ engineers always complain of shortages, but what's the job situation for engineers at your utility? Various studies say engineers are retiring from the power industry, students are not pursuing engineering degrees, and the power industry might be facing a job crisis in the future. Does that jive with what you see at your company?

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07/04/2010 12:26 AM

There is no shortage of engineers. There is a shortage of engineers willing to work for the wages employers want to pay, namely the wage immigrant and/or outsourced engineers will work for.

Engineering is typically considered a cost center rather than a profit center, so the non-technical management doesn't understand the impact a good engineer has on the bottom line. Therefore, they go for low cost and make engineering one of the first departments hit by lay-offs.

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07/04/2010 12:57 AM

Yeah, if you don't pay very much, good help is hard to find.

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07/09/2010 1:51 PM

I agree with you.Employers consider engineer,s facilities like company car as expense while marketeer,s expenses as income although a marketeer can't sell engineering goods without consulting the engineer.

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07/04/2010 2:01 AM

yes there is no real shortage of engineers, its only the hoax been created. if proper salry packages are been provided we can get good engineers for better work environments.

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Re: Are Engineering Shortages a Hoax?

07/04/2010 1:02 PM

Yes and no.

What there IS a shortage of is specialized engineers knowledgeable in specific applications. For example, acoustic engineers experienced in sound abatement (like for subways) are hard to find, no matter how much money you throw at them. A former employer of mine looked for one for two years and didn't find one ... until a fellow from France decided to move here to Canada and just happened to ask if my employer had a need.

Another example: the power sector is very short of engineers. A department at the NY Power Authority told me that if 5,000 power engineers were to appear out of nowhere, they'd all get jobs instantly.

Also, a fellow at NRG Energy told me four years ago that it was ready to ready to launch a project for a nuclear power plkant in California; all permits had been obtained, etc., and there were no more regulatory hurdles. The project hasn't gone ahead to date; and back when I talked to the fellow at NRG Energy, the problem was lack of manpower available.

So, there are enough engineers overall: but there aren't enough engineers (and others) with particular qualifications.

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07/05/2010 10:44 AM

First we should accept that in our society there are many categories of engineers apart from their field/area of employment(civil/electrical/mechanical etc).These categories are 1)Post graduate 2)graduate(degree) 3)Exam by professional Institutions in various countries 4)diploma 5)part time study or distant education (eg City & Guilds) 6)Apprenticeship in big organisations 7)Technicians promoted on basis of merit 8)work experience in a particular (narrow scope) kind of job Most of the jobs could be handled by any one of the above categories and in many workplaces you will find a mixture of above categories.The secret of success is not qualification but proper training and proven experience.Jobs needing good theoretical knowledge are less compared to other jobs needing experience.In construction industry if the design,drawings and specifications are without flaws it is not difficult to do.Employers should be aware of this. Another headache is 'engineering racism' meaning graduate engineers hating diploma engineers and recommending graduate engineers for even less difficult jobs. This is found in third world under-civilised states where the general public do not understand reality but led by ancient beliefs and think that only a graduate is acceptable even if he is no practical use and even elect family members of ex-leaders as their new leaders.They increase the intake of undergraduates to universities without proportionally increasing the other categories needed in the workplaces as in a pyramid where at the top only one person(manager) and as you go down the pyramid the quantity increases(technicians).Even in their Institution of Engineers there is no Incorporated engineers but only Chartered and Technician engineers are accepted. Experienced engineers leave the country in search of foreign jobs where they can learn more by working with engineers from the 1st world Salary is the most attracting aspect for any profession so they keep on changing jobs as their knowledge increases In engineering courses more practical aspects should be included to make a pass out person fit for work On the job training similar to internship for doctors should be made compulsory Employers should have consultants to solve difficult situations without blaming their inexperienced engineers Appointing non-engineers as heads of engineering divisions to be banned by professional engineering institutions and professional engineers who support this type of appointments to be removed from the membership of professional bodies. In many construction companies the project manager is a technician engineer who knows only practical aspects of the job and the employer is always pleased by his manners.But he usually lacks theoretical knowledge to understand some problems and will be rude with other engineers who may be clever than him. The worst problem will be political racism or social racism where an engineer may be neglected due to his race,language or religion or social status or political connection. The professional institutions should take up the matter with the authorities(govt) and if possible fix minimum salaries and better deal for various categories of engineers to reduce brain drain SNABAN

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Re: Are Engineering Shortages a Hoax?

07/09/2010 11:37 AM

I think the other posters have identified the problem. There are lots of engineers graduating from university, but the opportunities in industry are just not attractive financially.

These new graduates are very skilled with numbers and mathematics. This is only marginally valuable to industry, but it is very very valuable to the Financial sector. I think a lot of engineers have been lured to the big banks and investment firms to make big money.

I work as an engineer. When I come in to the office I walk past rows of Mercedes Benz's, BMW's and Porches. It's not the engineers who are driving these cars. A young engineer is doomed to a life as a techno-drone, driving his Toyota Corolla to work.

If he is skilled with mathematics, why should't the young engineer work in the financial sector and earn enough to drive a Ferrari? Should he feel guilty for leaving his engineering career behind? Ask him in five years when he has an extra quarter-million dollars in his pocket.

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07/09/2010 2:00 PM

As an example take an electrical engineering graduate who has studied symmetrical components,stability of generator,fault calculations etc but who cannot check an AVR in an alternator or cannot assess the load in an installation or cannot locate the fault in a cable but talks stupidly and paid higher salary and company vehicle etc discouraging experienced engineers

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07/14/2010 1:40 AM

no shortage of engineers but a shortage of coopration of industries with engineering institutions

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08/31/2010 3:57 AM

in power sector diploma engineers are treated as pioneers of electrical engg. and degree engineers are recruited below them.Thus they compromise in quality of work. Thats why degree engineers are going for MBA and join whereever they get the opportunity.

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