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End Of The Line For Moore's Law?

Posted December 08, 2010 7:00 AM

Moore's Law has accurately described the technology advancement of computing hardware for many decades, but the ubiquitous transistor will be running into a fabrication technique wall soon. Do you think progress will plateau, or will new devices such as memristors or optical and quantum based technologies be developed in time to continue the trend?

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12/08/2010 10:06 PM

I think as a whole there is a long way to go yet. Although how small or fast something can be does not limit how many can be used together.

I expect to see future processors running multiple sub units possibly into the hundreds of sub processors laid out on one main IC some day.

Unfortunately the programmers will likely bloat their programs to match the super multi processor capacities so that one day when we have the Pentiums 100x's running in our computers they will still be about the same overall speed they are now. But instead of having 30+ useless programs running in the background, as I do now so I can be on CR4, they may have thousands running full tilt for no reason.

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12/16/2010 11:31 AM

Moore's Law in its original sense is dead. It died in 2004. The CTO of IBM gave the eulogy, noting that "Somewhere between 130 and 90 nanometers, we lost scalability." This means that - unlike the previous decades - shrinking the die no longer makes it faster or lower power. That is why we see no 4 GHz Pentiums. They hit the wall with the 3.8 GHz Pentium 4.

The reason has to do with the metal, not the silicon. At 130 nm, 75% of the speed and power is spent in the aluminum interconnects. It takes more time and power to send signals between the transistors than for the transistors to switch.

180 nm was the last, old-school CMOS process. Up until then, you shrank the 2D geometry. This made the transistors and the metal smaller without changing much in the vertical dimension other than making the gate thinner. Smaller devices and metal meant constant relative resistance of the metal between the transistors, lower capacitance of everything and lower on resistance of the FETs. Shrinking the part made it cheaper (less silicon), faster and lower power. Big win.

But at 130 nm, the metal wires looked like skyscrapers: relatively tall and thin. Now, you have to shrink the height of the metal as well as its width, or the skyscrapers start falling over. Oops. Now the relative on resistance *increases* as you shrink. Delay between transistors increases as well as power dissipated waiting for the signals to get there.

Result? Below 130 nm, chips get cheaper but *slower* and *hotter* relative to 130 nm and above. That is why we do not have 4+ GHz Pentiums to this day, after decades of increasing CPU clock speeds.

This is not for lack of desire or effort. Faster speeds sell, even if you do not need it. It is like horsepower in a car or Watts in a stereo amplifier. And many have tried. Going form aluminum to copper helps a little. Using halfnium oxide and other tricks to lower capacitance helps a little, too. But these are all one-trick-ponys. They do not scale, meaning that they do not help you with the next shrink.

Going to germaium or un-obtanium will not help. Again, the problem is in the metal interconnects, not the transistors. Copper is the best metal out there for conductivity, and only slightly better than aluminum, the workhorse of the silicon industry. To beat it you need something that amounts to thin film superconductivity at room temperature, still in the future.

Implications? The single thread CPU has hit the speed wall. So software can no longer be bailed out by the next generation of hardware. The only way to go faster is to go parallel. This is not a general solution. Nobody know how to make a C compiler that will take a single threaded problem and efficiently convert it to parallel processing with a speed up proportional to N processors. And this is after decades of trying.

Parallel processing works great if you have a parallel problem. Web farms and chip verification linux farms have been around for decades and work fine. But that is because their problems are inherently parallel, and the parallel approach is built from the ground up.

So, why is multi-core suddenly popular? Well, what else are you going to sell for your next generation of chips? Maybe with enough smoke and mirrors, you can claim that a 20 core chip at 1 GHz each is equivalent to a 20 GHz processor. Or not.

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12/16/2010 11:48 AM

There are still some improvements to be had by bringing the processor & the storage together.

the distances between the chips [the interconnects] are relevant

layering present new problems into the fabrication process that have yet to be solved beyond the proof of concept stage

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12/09/2010 9:55 AM

Moor's law is coming near to stop sign and that has to do with atomic size and line stability. We may improve software and make it run fews more years but best I can predict is dead by 10 to 20 years.

New technology will start replacing and not sure which one materials based like doped silicon (example silicon germanium) or transmission improvement like optical or quantum dot or other

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12/09/2010 10:12 AM

The death of Moore's Law has been predicted many times. Somehow, uber-geeks figure out how to squeeze more logic into the same or smaller physical space and time. I predict this will continue into the distant future, ensuring continued employment for software (and electronics) types forever.

It's not so much a Law as a loose observation, anyway.

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12/10/2010 9:47 AM

Bio anyone...The Biological computer will eventually negate Moore's Law all together!

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12/10/2010 12:43 PM

I think tcmtech has it right. Parallel processing has been used for years to speed up computing. These days, the next viable (and obvious) step will be a handheld computer (similar to a smartphone) with significant power on its own, operating as a "frontman", wirelessly connected to a more powerful "backman" computer either in the building (or home) or located remotely. The wireless ability we are seeing today with the advent of 4G will allow even multiple "backman" computers to participate.

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