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Armstrong Urges Return to the Moon, then Mars

Posted August 26, 2011 11:28 AM

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To train for Mars, a return to the lunar surface is essential, according to the first man to set foot on the moon.

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08/26/2011 12:11 PM

Neil's message is pretty much spot on.

NASA needs a firm and unwavering goal, which is exactly not what Washington has been feeding NASA for decades.

No sign that things are going to change for the foreseeable future.

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08/26/2011 11:10 PM

It is just common sense to establish a permanent moon base first. We can then launch from there, after ships refuel on the moon. We can get used to living in outer space on a permanent basis.

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08/27/2011 2:16 AM

Where do we get the money from? or Will Nasa next have advertisement spaces on their rockets?

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08/27/2011 8:58 AM

During my last trip to NASA, I was told only 1/15th of NASA's budget came from congress. The rest came from patents and inventions.

I suppose necessity really is the mother of invention.

I never verified this comment and still wonder about the reported stats.It would seem some of the money would surely come from there.

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08/29/2011 7:54 AM

I don't know where those numbers come from, but they don't come from reality. NASA gives away most of its technology - it belongs to the taxpayers after all. I suspect that what you heard was some variation on the "every dollar spent at NASA generates $7 for the economy" story, which is dubious in itself.

However, the ever faithful wikipedia tells us that A November 1971 study of NASA released by the Midwest Research Institute of Kansas City, Missouri ("Technological Progress and Commercialization of Communications Satellites." In: "Economic Impact of Stimulated Technological Activity") concluded that "the $25 billion in 1958 dollars spent on civilian space R & D during the 1958-1969 period has returned $52 billion through 1971 -- and will continue to produce pay offs through 1987, at which time the total pay off will have been $181 billion. The discounted rate of return for this investment will have been 33 percent."

In those days a high percentage of NASA spending went into R&D. After the shuttles were built, most of the NASA budget went into operations, and much less into R&D.

I had hoped that NASA would adopt the Obama plan and return to more of an R&D approach, but it seems we're doomed to support the large aerospace corporations with rocket projects that eat up the budget.

But yes - I would be thrilled to have a plan to return to the moon, or go to Mars. I would be thrilled to have any plan to do anything - as long as the plan was adequately funded, truly looked ahead technologically, and was insulated from the whims of our nation's least trusted branch of government.

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08/27/2011 6:22 PM

A motel on the moon might be a profit maker!

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08/30/2011 10:52 AM

Something about a Tranquility-based stay, though the words haven't quite come together yet. Working on it....

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