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Inventors to Race for Millions in Auto-efficiency Prize

Posted May 30, 2007 8:18 AM

From CNN.com - U.S.:

The man behind the aerospace Ansari X Prize, which helped propel the first ventures into the field of space tourism, is taking on fuel efficiency in cars. Peter Diamandis, the founder and chief executive officer of the X Prize Foundation, is issuing a worldwide challenge for teams to come up with an efficient car model that can be mass produced. The prize will be officially launched later this year, and teams will have about a year and a half to build their vehicles before the first qualifying race in 2009. "The Ford model T got 25 miles per gallon, and the cars today are getting 18 miles per gallon, and that's just wrong," Diamandis told CNN recently.

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05/30/2007 9:29 AM

Kayaker from Ohio is thankful for a van that gets 28-32 mpg on hiway...1998 Merc Villager with E 3 spark plugs and synthetic oil.

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05/31/2007 8:34 AM

"The Ford model T got 25 miles per gallon, and the cars today are getting 18 miles per gallon, and that's just wrong."

Yeah, right, another pithy comment that ignores an apples-to-oranges comparison. If we designed a modern engine to put out the 20-22hp of a Model T Ford then we would probably be getting close to 70mpg due to more efficient design and much better materials.

Plus there is this from the Ford Model T Collectors (http://www.modelt.ca/faq-fs.html) website:

"How many miles to the gallon does a Model T get?

Model T engines are not terribly efficient compared to modern ones. While our measurements are perhaps less than completely scientific, experience indicates that our Ts get about 12-14 miles per US gallon, depending on the countryside.Your mileage may vary. "

So while I sympathise with the desire to have more fuel efficient cars the answer isn't in better design but in public desire. As long as people want powerful, heavy cars there isn't going to be a big push for fuel efficiency. If there was a desire to be fuel efficient we'd all be on 50cc mopeds. So ultimately the market will decide.

Still, if this guy wants to hand us money we're already working on plug-in-hybrids. We could design a super fuel efficient car. But then you want us to win a race with it? Interesting...

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05/31/2007 12:14 PM

Excellent...

Shame the X prize winners seem to have lost their momentum now.

Modern cars get 18mpg???!!!

My Nissan Micra gets about 40mpg (I know there is a discrepancy between US and UK mpg)...but surely anyone only getting 18mpg should get a new car!?

Any how, back to the point...

At least he's doing something and the X prize was brilliant! Hats off to him.

It's a catalyst for the smaller companies to have a go. There seems to be so much automative negativity about. I was in Rome a few weeks back...loads of fun city cars, and those cute APE's ...brill'

I know the distances travelled in the US are much greater etc...so please don't have a go at me for being 'anti -US' I'm not... I'm just pro action!

Blimey I was even surprised the other day...I followed a Chevrolet that wasn't as ugly as sin!

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modern cars get 18mpg?

05/31/2007 3:10 PM

Unfortunately if you're driving an American style SUV (even w/o the triple turret 16" deck guns) around town 18mpg is probably not far from the truth...

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05/31/2007 9:46 PM

How bout the average work truck getting 10 to 12. truth. What I don't understand is that the dual overhead cam has been in existance for nearly a century, yet wasn't popular until the 80's. What other great automotive inventions have been overlooked? I will bet the "discoveries" have already been made, just not employed properly.

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