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Cooking Chemistry: Turkey Time

Posted November 27, 2013 7:01 AM by HUSH
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Ahhh! Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, which is definitely my favorite holiday of the celebratory triumvirate known as the "Holiday Season" (Thanksgiving; Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanza/Winter Solstice; New Year's). Unless you're Canadian, in which case I'm about six weeks late to the feast. And unless you're English, wherein you may celebrate Get Lost Pilgrims Day. For the record, this blog post is certainly on auto-post; there is no way I'm in the office today.

My family has always celebrated Thanksgiving somewhat irregularly. Growing up, my parents would volunteer at soup kitchens, leaving us to rush to a diner at 6 p.m. My brother, who is about a decade older than I, had no kids of his own and would do Thanksgiving at his in-laws. I was left to a day of sleeping in, football, and boredom.

Years removed from this unusual celebration, for the first time I find myself in charge of cooking a 15 lb. turkey for Thanksgiving 2013. Truth be told, I'm somewhat of a barbeque enthusiast. I've converted an old, sturdy Weber grill into a smoker, and I love spending four hours heating slabs of marinated pork ribs to a temperature that is never above 180°. I'm currently researching if smoking a whole 15 lb. turkey is feasible (seemingly no), but before I even get there I need to make sure I have my chemistry right. After all, cooking is essentially a series of chemical reactions.

Anatomy

Turkeys, as you would buy them from a store, are up to 60% water. The rest of the bird is meat, made of muscle fibers, connective tissues, and fats. Since turkeys rarely fly, the legs of the birds are fattier than the breasts. This difference in texture means that breasts do not need to be cooked as long as legs. When thawing a turkey, consider keeping an ice pack on the breasts of the fowl. This way the legs get a bit of a head start when thrown in the oven. Another option would be to construct a heat shield out of aluminum foil.

Chemistry

The flavor of the bird is mostly determined by aroma, but also somewhat by taste. Heating a bird results in a series of reactions between carbonyl groups of reducing sugars and nucleophile amino groups of the amino acids myosin and actin. This reaction, known as a Malliard reaction, gives cooked turkey its characteristic brown color, and also generates turkey's 'meaty' aroma.

Once heated above 100°F, proteins begin to denature. Muscle tissues shrink and become tougher the longer they are cooked. However, connective tissues such as collagen need to be heated to a higher minimum temperature. Heating over 140°F turns the collagen tender. A careful compromise between enough heat to denature collagen without making muscles tough to chew needs to be achieved. Furthermore, water which is attached to protein molecules is lost when it is denatured. Everyone knows moist turkey is preferred.

Cooking

There have been a few attempts to establish a reliable cooking time for turkeys. Some sources recommend following formulas outlines in Carlaw and Jaeger's 1947 Conduction of Heat in Solids. However, this method is imperfect since it assumes several conditions about the bird's cooking environment and volume.

Instead some years ago Wolfgang Panofsky, a true lover of turkey meat, professor of physics, and particle accelerator director at Stanford University created his own equation for timing a turkey. He noted that many guidelines for turkey cooking present a linear equation, and he disagreed with that assumption. Through trial-and-error (read: eating a ton of turkey), Panofsky developed the following formula, with a turkey cooked at 325°F.

where: t equals time, and W equals weight of the turkey

Turkey Time

Of course, since I'm cooking the turkey, I'm not making a single side. The rest of the family will have to do that. Perhaps if I can get the turkey done early, I can enjoy a sleepy evening of gorging and football.

Happy Thanksgiving from CR4!

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11/27/2013 8:35 AM

15 pounds is the upper limit that most smoked turkeys come. So it can be done. I've cooked larger on the grill whole.

Years ago my employer gave out smoked turkeys for Thanksgiving. Most were at the 15 pound weight.

Now the turkeys they give out are 25 pounds or better. Uncooked by your formula most would take 12 hours or better. Never cooked one of them that long.

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11/28/2013 5:34 AM

25(2/3)/1.5 = 5.7, according to my envelope.

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11/28/2013 10:16 AM

Agreed.

My 20.8 pound turkey comes out with a cooking time of about 5 pounds... if the result were only hours, that would sound about right for my unstuffed bird.

9.4 kg turkey comes out with a cooking time of about 3 kg... if the result were hours, that would sound pretty underdone.

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11/28/2013 10:51 AM

Hey buddy!

Happy Thanksgiving. I was wondering if you left us for good.

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11/28/2013 3:23 PM

Hey kramarat! Thanks for the hello.

Yeah, been mostly CR4 absent for a while... spending most of my time on personal stuff lately. I do come around and look (don't usually sign in) every day or two.

Best wished for the holiday season to you and the missus, and to all of my CR4 friends.

[Ah, to hell with PC] Happy Thanksgiving, my friends!

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11/27/2013 11:05 AM

Thanksgiving at my wife's brother's house.

I usually do the turkey in my roaster, but he wants to try his hand at deep frying one this year.

If he starts pounding shots too early, it could get interesting.

I'm bringing my fire extinguisher.

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11/27/2013 1:27 PM

hey we deep fried turkeys about 50 people here at work one year. Had 30 lb ones and had to cut them in half. Sand clear when he puts it in.

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11/27/2013 7:19 PM

I made the stuffing and sweet potatoes today. I'm also supplying the mashed potates, gravy, corn, cranberry sauce, rolls, pecan pie, and pumpkin pie.

If he gets drunk early and screws up that turkey, I'm gonna cut him in half and throw him in that fryer.

Actually, I'll probably end up doing it. I should hit the internet for some instruction.

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11/28/2013 1:32 AM

Too bad if you don't like turkey meat or don't have the time (and energy) to invest in cooking one.

Is it culturally correct to substitute turkey for something that actually tastes good and is quick to cook?

Or is the waste of energy like a ritual sacrifice to the Gods of Excess?

Don't forget the Transfat basting.

How many more folk in the US will slip into unrecoverable debt this year just so they can celebrate excess?

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11/28/2013 5:48 AM

The citizens are actually getting better with debt and spending...slowly.

Still too much excess, as far as I'm concerned, but don't completely judge Americans by the actions of our government. Only the most selfish, stupid and arrogant make it into Washington politics.

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11/29/2013 4:07 PM

It's a matter of priority. Thanksgiving is an important time of the year for us. It is a time when families get together. Many travel thousands of miles to be together. I'm sure you must have your own ritual that you would not miss at any cost.

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11/29/2013 7:46 PM

I can only think of one ritual that I wouldn't miss at any cost and that's waking up to live another day.

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11/28/2013 12:13 PM

Old Kansas country formula, repeated in Adele Davis and others--One hour per pound, at 225 degrees. My Mom and her Mom would put 20 lb turkeys into the oven at 2 in the morning, and the whole house would smell wonderful all night. The reasoning is that the meat on the bird never BOILS (212 degrees), the temperature at which many chemical changes occur with proteins. It slowly comes up to the final temperature (Up to you, based on your taste). I have never had breast meat so tender and moist. As an aside, always , as they say, verify with a thermometer. You also have a lot of time to adjust the time and temp . This method works very well with all meats, especially tougher roasts etc. As far as smoking turkeys, when I was much younger , we found an old TV tube chassis, and turned it upside down and used it as a smoker. Did several turkeys over open fires that way, moving the coals to the sides, and using that big old hole in the back as a smoke and temperature regulator. If you are hungry, you will find a way. Good luck!

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11/29/2013 1:37 PM

That sounds good.

I put my turkey in brine water the day before, and soak it for 24 hours. Then I rinse it, dry it off, rub the outside with olive oil, salt and pepper, place a few halved onions and fresh rosemary in the cavity, and cook it in one of those self standing broilers. The brine water almost makes the process idiot proof; it always comes out moist and juicy.

My brother in law did a pretty good job with the frying. Just a little overdone. The breast and the inside of the turkey were fine, but you could have driven nails with the wings and legs.

Good to hear from you Doorman!

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11/28/2013 12:15 PM

Also, as an aside, there is a website called Cooking For Engineers, or something like that. It is a hoot, and the receipes and reasoning for various procedures are really cool.

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11/29/2013 4:35 PM

Being busy but wanting to have turkey I noted that it said test with meat thermometer, and 165 degrees was considered safely done, so I cut the plastic wrap off the frozen bird, placed it in a roasting pan and set the oven for 165. Then out for prime rib dinner. I checked the bird around noon the next day, and sure enough, it had reached the required temp. A short time under the broiler coil browned it and the total prep time appx. 10 minutes.

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11/29/2013 6:56 PM

No stuffing? No oil & seasoning? Not even a bit of garlic?

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Nope, I happen to like the taste of turkey....didn't sauce the prime rib either!

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