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Unique Copper Wire That Can Store Electricity

Posted August 05, 2014 12:00 AM by Engineering360 eNewsletter
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Eliminating space-consuming batteries and storing their energy elsewhere could lead to smaller electronics and lighter and less-costly electric vehicles. In fact, researchers at the University of Central Florida have created a new copper wire that uses nanotechnology to both transmit and store energy. In effect, they created a supercapacitor on the outside of a single wire by growing "nanowhiskers" and then treating them with an alloy that transforms them into an electrode. With some additional work, the researchers believe the technique will transfer to other materials as well.


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08/06/2014 4:23 AM

This is not a battery, even the inventors admit that it is only a capacitor. When you energize the cable some power will divert to charging, or discharging, and you have no indication of the charge state prior to switch on, so the output to the load is not controllable. You cannot use it for high frequencies or digital transmission because the capacitance disrupts the signal. Depending on where you place a disconnect switch, on switch off the cable could continue to power the load. Before working on the circuit you need a method of fully discharging the cable, preferably not via the load, as working with charged capacitors is a best dangerous and at worst lethal. Finally the energy density (ED) is conveniently not quoted. Unless the ED is greater than that of a battery you do not eliminate the battery weight, merely substitute the same weight of cable.

I am not decrying the science, this is an prime example of out of context, false headline grabbing, misreporting journalism that has no place on CR4.

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08/06/2014 10:53 AM

You are correct, it is not a battery. I can see it could be useful in applications which require a momentary large inrush of current such as a motor start up that a smaller battery could not deliver. I would assume the switch would be on the load side so that it would basically be a supercapacitor in parallel with the battery. It's obviously good only for conducting DC power.

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08/07/2014 3:37 PM

As it is a linearly-distributed capacitance, I can see where this may have useful applications in pulse-formers and generators. I've used lengths of unterminated coaxial cable for this purpose in the past. Charge-up the center conductor through (typically) a resistor with the coax shield grounded and then discharge through a FET switch to the load. The discharge propagates down the coax until it reaches the end, generating a constant-current pulse meanwhile whose duration is a function of the coax length and propagation velocity. Small-signal stuff in my application, but this same approach can be scaled up by ganging sections in parallel to generate fast pulses having extremely high currents for fusion experiments, lasers, railguns, magnetisers, etc.

Really, this technology boils down to being just a new way of making coaxial cable, no? And distributed capacitors.

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08/09/2014 9:59 AM

A very low impedance coax cable.

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08/09/2014 11:34 AM

Yes, and according to the article, a coax wot stores not just energy, but powerful energy. Clearly they're making direct application of the Strong Nuclear Force; the author of the piece just doesn't know it yet. (psst: I won't tell if you won't ).

Seriously though, if they want to use nanostructures to pack the most energy into the smallest volume, using a cylindrical wire as the form is the wrong approach. For one thing, just one glance will tell you that it has entirely the wrong geometry. That center conductor places severe constraints on the available surface area and, if it's capacitors you want to build, you're gonna need all the surface area you can get. Tightly-wound parallel sheets would be a far better approach as any capacitor manufacturer would tell them. Even better, some kind of porous approach akin to solid tantalum capacitors. What they've come up with is basically a way of using nanostructures as a capacitor dielectric but nothing else about it is really all that new - coaxial cables have been around since Christ was a colonel.

Hard to say what the impedance is. I suspect you're right but there is an (unspecified) inductive component as well as a finite propagation velocity that will also influence the effective impedance.

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