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Skyney is Coming, No Really (Technological Singularity)

Posted November 19, 2014 11:25 AM by HUSH

Last spring I was on vacation in Florida and took the hour drive from the beach into Orlando to visit Universal Studios. Many people elect for one of Disney's many, many family-oriented theme parks, but with no kids, and a severe affection for roller coasters and thrill rides, Universal Studios was my choice.

After spending, oh, I don't know, about $450 for a single-day pass for two people (seriously), I was entreated to a theme park full of movie-oriented attractions and rides representing today's most popular entertainment brands. Harry Potter. Shrek. Transformers. Despicable Me. Men in Black. Marvel Comics. The Simpsons. It was an all-out onslaught of merchandise and marketing. (If you're still with me, I promise, this is getting somewhere.)

Yet a few less-popular brands still exist in the park. Twister has its own ride. Beetlejuice has a show. I expected these fading brands to be replaced by more popular ones. I even attended a 3D live show of Terminator 2, complete with a Schwarzenegger imposter on a motorcycle, animatronic Terminators and mid-1990s 3D technology. It was obviously a let-down considering how developed 3D technology has become in the 20 years since the release of T2, and it was no surprise that the theater was less than a quarter-full during my showing.

So why does Terminator 2 3-D: Battle Across Time still stand as an attraction today? There are dozens of more profitable replacement options for an overage, unpopular attraction with a fading brand. Could it be that this live interpretation of humanity's battle versus Skynet is powerful reminder that the technological singularity is inevitable? Or is this blogger just grasping at straws while trying to segue into a post about such a topic?

It's definitely the latter, but at least hear me out.

You might remember the name Alan Horn--he is best known one of the lead developers of IBM's Watson, the supercomputer that appeared on Jeopardy! and is now used to assess treatments for lung cancer. Horn recently argued that whether humans want it to or not, technology will develop to a point where it begins to develop itself. It will be a cascading series of machines building machines, and it will make humans obsolete in every way, an event known as the technological singularity. Not only will humanity's thought processes be dwarfed by artificial superintelligence, but humanity's convictions on art and morality will be challenged in the name of optimization and efficiency. This will essentially make humans useless, but significant resources will still be spent on keeping us all alive, while humans contribute immense waste and pollution. This would be the point where the T-100s arrive and begin eradicating humanity. Many point out that an uncontrolled technological ascent has no reason to view humans as helpful or friendly. It wouldn't be actively malicious, but it would sometimes compete for the same resources, and would not be interested in furthering humanity's goals. Perhaps the best way of aligning our goals would be transhumanism, the concept of blending human physiology with bioengineering developments to create superhumans.

Futurologists have attempted to predict exactly when the singularity will occur. The median seems to be 2045, but the consensus is that it would definitely happen by 2100. This is based on the rate at which computational capacities compound, heavily influenced by Moore's law. Several things could slow down the rate of growth, such as software bottlenecks. Software has different development timescales than hardware, and even a superintelligent machine that is writing code would be playing catch-up to more advanced hardware. Also, according to other experts, eventually hardware reaches an upper threshold in computational speed--a threshold that would be reached in due time even with humans building machines.

Even if slowed, the singularity appears inevitable. For it to not occur, the Singularity University believes that intelligence augmentation needs to fail on six different impeding innovations: bioengineering, genetic engineering, nootropic drugs, AI assistants, brain-computer interfaces, and brain uploading. Even the success of one of these will lead to a singularity. It's so unavoidable, that Stephen Hawking believes superintelligence needs to be planned for today, because it could lead to lead to "technology outsmarting financial markets, out-inventing human researchers, out-manipulating human leaders, and developing weapons we cannot even understand."

Should we be worried about becoming obsolete ourselves, or is the concern of a technological singularity the stuff of science fiction?

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11/19/2014 5:40 PM

Not too worried about it. We humans will still have the keys to the power plants, substations, transmission lines/electrical grids and most everything else in the physical infrastructure they need for power and existence.

Pretty hard to eradicate us humans en mass without cutting its own throat, heart, arms and legs off while doing it so to speak.

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11/20/2014 4:48 PM

I saw an ad the other day that stated: "If you make less than $30,000/yr in the U.S.A. be prepared to be replaced by a robot". Wow. I see a whole lot of hotel workers and farm laborers getting really steamed.

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11/20/2014 8:46 PM

A point will be reached where a robot replaces a human being, thus eliminating the last bit of market for the robot's services. With no income who will buy their product or service? They're slowly killing the Golden Goose.

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11/21/2014 10:29 AM

All of this is just one more example of technology outstripping mankind's emotional maturity level to deal with it. More people need to be involved in how far we need to take this into the mainstream of experience. If ultimate freedom of man's time to be creative is the ultimate objective, what is to be created? If robotics for space travel, I can firmly stand behind this, as no human can withstand the rigors (safely) of space travel over long times, distances. The ability to go places (with our current technology) is best held within the frame of a robot.

However, as we have already seen, robotic space exploration also has limits within the framework of total reliability, self-repair, diagnostics in transit, etc.

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11/21/2014 12:39 PM

Well said.

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11/19/2014 5:42 PM

Singularity University is ignoring all of Human History if they think we're going to become 'trans-humans, augmented with AI'. I myself have no concerns about becoming obsolete in the way S.U. envisions because S.U.'s vision ignores fact.

No, the way we'll become 'obsolete' will be through our own destruction at the hands of the same sort of people who have bent every single advance in technology to their own ends - power and control, mainly - since the Beginning of Time.

In short, Artificial Intelligence doesn't worry me nearly so much as does Natural Stupidity.

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11/19/2014 5:50 PM

Goal based existence is a situation that demands decisions and clear priorities...for the singularity to continue to evolve it will need to be goal oriented...take away the goal and the machine stops evolving....

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11/19/2014 5:53 PM

A sufficiently advanced AI will set its own goals - goals which may or may not include the well-being of the Human Race.

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11/19/2014 6:07 PM

A machine that starts setting it's own goals will have to be destroyed....

...start your training now....?

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11/19/2014 6:28 PM

Wait a minute... Thats the same response most employees get from the management when they start showing initiative and start setting their own goals.

I believe that we have a built in fail safe against a machine uprising already in place!

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11/19/2014 6:28 PM

Already well equipped - I used to write videogame software for Parker Bros. Long ago. You can bet they weren't Care Bears or Strawberry Shortcake games. One of my co-workers had a sign over his desk which read: 'I love killiing baby Ewoks.'

For some strange reason, most of my co-workers used to design torpedoes. Real ones. Lovely resumes, too. Guidance systems, navigation software, weapons control, their experience ran the gamut from AI to PhDs in mathematics. Sharp folks and crazy as hell.

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11/20/2014 8:50 AM

So, they can't make a vehicle ECM (Engine Control Module) that lasts the lifetime of a vehicle, but they wan't to build an AI machine. How disappointed will the AI be when it realizes it was built by the lowest bidder?

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11/20/2014 12:31 PM

There are a lot of people who believe their distant ancesters were amino acids in a primordial goo, all built by accident, and they're doing okay so maybe it will, too.

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11/21/2014 10:32 AM

Most of us humans were also built by the lowest bidder too, at least the one that fooled our mother into putting a bun in the oven.

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I thought we were self-assembled with mum paying the electricity bill.

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