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The $5,000 Challenge, “You Bought a What?” Edition

Posted July 30, 2015 9:00 AM by dstrohl
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The beauty of the collector car hobby is this: there's something with wheels to satisfy (almost) everyone's taste. Used fire engines, while not practical daily (or weekend) drivers, enjoy a respectable following, as do professional cars, like those used in the funerary services. While this edition of the $5,000 Challenge features a few ordinary automobiles, others break from convention to offer a glimpse of what the guy-down-the-street might collect.

How about a classic fire engine for less than $5K?

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07/31/2015 3:29 AM

Very good purchase and it can be used to water the trees in forest very easily.

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07/31/2015 8:22 AM

Nice! If you turn the siren and flasher on, you won't have to stop at traffic lights any more!

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07/31/2015 8:23 AM

I have one too!

1968 International 190 Series fire truck.

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07/31/2015 11:45 AM

On a pumper truck, how much water does it carry?

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07/31/2015 8:27 PM

I've never filled the main tank but guess by it size maybe between 1000 - 1500 gallons.

I got the old truck on a work trade deal with a buddy of mine that has a big scrap yard. I just thought it was too cool to let it get scrapped so I traded a few days work for the old thing and drove it 300 miles home!

Daughter and I occasionally take it out for a drive around the back roads but that's as far as it's ever went since I got it home a few years ago.

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07/31/2015 9:14 PM

You could probably start up a lawn watering business for the rich and famous in California....

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07/31/2015 10:35 PM

Where I am at there are weeks where I could make more renting the old truck out as a high capacity mobile water pump to get rid of water around here.

I'm not sure what the old rig is capable of but the engine is rated for 285 HP continuous duty and the pump has a six inch line going out with a 300 PSI gauge on it!

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07/31/2015 10:36 PM

Or fight the grass fires burning up the rich and famous homes

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08/01/2015 8:17 AM

A typical rural engine was equipped with a 2 stage pump rated at 1000 gal/min @125 PSI and 500 gal/min @250 PSI. pumping from a 10 ft lift. That is, if the pump is in good condition. The typical problem with an old pump is the shaft seals are worn and dried out to the point where the pump can not develop enough vacuum to pump from draft.

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08/01/2015 8:33 AM

In rural areas (where there are no pressurized fire hydrants), I'm guessing the pumps are designed to suck water out of a nearby pond?

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08/01/2015 10:19 AM

Actually, in rural areas, it fairly coordinated, we fortunate that we live near Lake Michigan Wisconsins peninsula, and the bay of Green Bay on the other side. The water can come from tanks from the county doing road work (if available), the bay, the lake and any inland lake or pond.

Also any grey water holding tanks near by, they have a record of these.

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08/01/2015 11:22 AM

While all fire service pumps are designed to pump from draft (an unpressurized water source), rural fire departments typically maintain their pumps much better than urban departments that get their water from pressurized hydrants. Keep this in mind if you are in the market for a used fire engine.

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08/03/2015 10:06 AM

There is a problem with rural areas, near the border of another township at cross road and such, the first responders will come short of a brawl on whose territory its on.

Also, in rural areas, some of the volunteers on a department are only volunteers because its a status symbol of power or respect. Nothing more,

When they are out in the taverns and a call comes over their pager...., as drunk as they are..... they feel the department needs them to go on the call.

there was a nearby township next to ours,.... they had a huge fire, ended up calling in a number of neighboring townships FD,.... which happens on a large fire that has adjourning buildings. Its the reason why they had to call that was ridicules.

why, because they did not prime their pump, on the pumper trucks, and they could not figure out why it wasn't pumping...... and ended up wrecking their seals.

They blamed the fire tuck and ended up buying a new one (Fire truck that is). Fortunately, we/they had a large tax base.

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08/03/2015 12:49 PM

This impression that rural volunteer fire departments are a bunch of drunk "good old boys" really bothers me. My experience as a volunteer in a rural department is just the opposite. We were a group of citizens that took the responsibility for our own safety, and the safety of our community seriously. Our training was rigorous and continuous. We held mandatory weekly maintenance and training meetings. All members were expected to be proficient in the use and operation of all our equipment and apparatus.

And, any member that showed up at a meeting or at a fire scene under the influence was immediately dismissed from the department! (That only happened once during my tenure)

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08/03/2015 1:00 PM

"This impression that rural volunteer fire departments are a bunch of drunk "good old boys" "

I didn't say that..... you did,.... while I said some......

And you've admitted it happens.

Having experienced a barn fire in 1980, the volunteer fire department was on the scene within 10 minutes after the call went in, a lot of them were working at near the fire station. and was putting water on the fire with in 15 minute. And had already organized with the county that was doing asphalt road work to have the water they were using diverted to the farm.

This was our town in our township, but being in the rural area, our FD like the surrounding Townships have the people that are Volunteers for the wrong reason.

Now I sorry I hurt your brotherhood. but face it. this I am sure is in any volunteer department.

I had designer that was a Volunteer fireman that came in smelling of smoke. He was up all night and just got off from a fire call, and came in directly to work. I gave him time off, just so he could rest. Knowing he'd make up his time.

The owner of the company had a fit. I asked him if they had a volunteer fire department where he lived. He said yes. Then I asked how he'd feel if the volunteer firemen was at your place putting out the flames. How would he feel.

He dropped the subject.

btw, this same volunteer, was called to an accident at a crossroads of a automobile accident, where one other FD from the adjoining township fire department also showed up.

This is where the brawl started on whose township the accident was in.

I'm not going to get into safety into their own hands BS...,.... but I will if you want. but we're far enough off topic.

And with all that said, I have the greatest amount of respect for the Volunteers FD that take their work seriously for they are a true asset.

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08/03/2015 10:18 AM

Yes, thanks for the inside info! I will definitely keep this in mind the next time I buy a used fire truck!

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07/31/2015 8:28 AM

Did you guys have any trouble getting insurance?

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07/31/2015 8:36 AM

When my daughter was 3 or 4 years old, I used to haul stuff to the city dump pretty often. She enjoyed coming along. I had an old snowmobile trailer that I used for hauling branches. It was sort of a pain in the ass to unload the branches one-by-one. One day a big dump truck pulled in and dumped a big load. I still remember her telling me that I should get a dump truck! Ha! Ha!

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07/31/2015 1:24 PM

So did you?

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07/31/2015 1:31 PM

No, but I sort of wanted to!

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08/01/2015 12:30 PM

I think it would be cool to have a vintage dump truck. Unfortunately, most owners of dump trucks actually used them and by the time they were done with them, they were little more than scrap heaps. (Which of course is what's supposed to happen, otherwise you wasted money on a truck.)

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08/03/2015 10:22 AM

That's right! You buy a dump truck with the hope that you will get a enough business hauling loads to eventually wear it out... A township or city buys a fire engine with the hope that it is seldom used!

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08/04/2015 7:26 PM

That's true, but unfortunately they usually wear out the fire trucks too responding to tragedies (fires, accidents, Del stuck in a tree, . . . .)

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