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Levees Fail Again

Posted March 10, 2016 2:21 PM by Shawn

Lack of accurate data plagues geological predictions. Whether we are assessing climate change, tropical storm probabilities, or the significance of unseasonably warm temperatures there is only a small sample size available. There may be semi-accurate data back as far as the early- to mid-18th century, but one could debate that accurate data was not available until the 1970's when the first Earth Resources Technology Satellite was launched, now known as Landsat. A prime example of data issues is exemplified by the 100-yr flood level.

The US Army Corp of Engineers continually strives to build up levees and protect southern Louisiana from flooding down through New Orleans. The ever increasing levees along with the Old River Control Structure (ORCS), which regulates water flow from 'The Big Muddy' towards a more natural course down through the Atchafalaya River safeguard the developed areas along the Mississippi River Delta.

Without the 'The Big Muddy' there would be a lack of sediment deposited on the now elongated delta, and subsidence along with tidal erosion would wash away the City of New Orleans. The fight to keep New Orleans safe requires a firm understanding of mathematical probabilities. The 100-yr flood level is an elevation alongside a river bank where no structures can be built. In lower Louisiana this law is not enforced as many urban developments existed before such laws came into effect, and are grandfathered in.

Instead of regulating where we can build the State of Louisiana relies on levees. Levees are built to a height that safeguards neighboring areas with significant confidence that they can withstand normal and even elevated river stages that are predicted to occur. Modern events suggest we are losing the battle with 'The Big Muddy'. The St. Louis flood wall was rebuilt after the record floods observed in 1993. The new levees are designed to contain a river stage of 54 feet, 4.4 feet above the flood crest of 1993. On New Year's Day the Mississippi River at St. Louis crested at its third highest level on record at 42.58 feet, and again today we are witnessing significant flooding.

As quoted by Mark Twain, "One who knows the Mississippi will promptly aver-not aloud, but to himself-that ten thousand River Commissions, with the mines of the world at their back, cannot tame that lawless stream, cannot curb it or confine it, cannot say to it, Go here, or Go there, and make it obey; cannot save a shore which it has sentenced; cannot bar its path with an obstruction which it will not tear down, dance over, and laugh at."

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03/10/2016 3:38 PM

Excuse me, unless one is precisely reporting a guess, putting the words "accuracy" and "prediction" together is an obfuscating, oxymoron pairing of words. All predictions have uncertainties

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03/11/2016 9:38 AM

I don't see your point, a predicted flood height is based on statistical analysis of previous river stage heights. They data is loosely falls under the realms of the traditional bell curve and the max flood stage height is predicted. The accuracy of said prediction is contingent on the amount of data available. We simply don't have enough years of data available to make accurate enough predictions... or so it seems.

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03/11/2016 10:45 AM

Bingo! Imprecise linguistics on the topic of statistics quickly leads to wrong conclusions.

The probability of getting a specific flood level at any time is zero! I know you meant the probability of a flood exceeding a a specific height can be calculated from historical records. But that is not what you said. Then there is the common misnomer of "the hundred year flood". The height or volume of flood that will exceed a levee has a 0.1% of happening in any year. This does not mean flooding this large will happen every hundred years. Prior events do not change probabilities. So just because rain levels exceed X once in the past Y years doesn't change the probability it won't do it again next year.

Then there's the points I think you were trying to make. First, the sparse historical information available are less precise and a much smaller data set than what today's satellite technology can produce. Proper weighting and uncertainties can and are performed to handle this. Second, to make any probability prediction of the future of any random process one must assume that the random process has not changed since events of the past. This unknown, unknown change to a random process is the perennial bane of statistics and predictions. [I have to say it, climate change.]

This then begs the question, if the future must be so uncertain even with applying the rigorous convoluted mathematics of statistics, why bother doing it at all? Levee heights must be agreed upon before being built.

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03/11/2016 11:09 AM

I'd argue this isn't a failure due to climate change, but rather an engineering failure. You should also note that there is substantial dredging in the lower Mississippi. Primarily to help navigate boats up and down thin channels. The amount of sediment carried by the big muddy simply can't be removed economically and the sedimentation along the delta is needed to support the neighboring urban development. Loss of salt water marshes also comes into play as they normally act as a sponge and help mitigate flash flooding.

Its a losing battle, that amount of water can not be forced to flow up-hill. Then couple the cost of flood damage in areas where levees are inadequate well-below the hundred year flood level. The sediments flow, some levees are built up to withstand historic floods while the river finds new banks to over-flow.

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03/11/2016 1:17 PM

I just love it!

I start with a criticism of inaccurate linguistics and your reply starts with an undefined pronoun. What more proof do I need!

In my view an engineering failure of a levee would be if the levee failed with water levels that were less than they were designed to hold back. Underestimating the height a levee should hold back is usually a political, budgetary failure. Choosing to build new levees that are only 4.4 feet above the previous crest or failing to dredge silt when warranted is a budgetary choice not an engineering choice.

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03/11/2016 1:27 PM

In my view, an engineering failure occurs when the desired outcome is not achieved by the system put in place. That is the case. The dynamics of the river are not accounted for while the small portion of the levee system reconstructed after the 1993 flood event remains suitable for now.

I'm sorry if my linguistics do not meet your expectations, but this is in all terms a pretty informal discussion. I stipulate that the 100 year flood stage height is ever evolving, river dynamics trump the work of the engineering staff, and we are fighting an up-hill battle... no pun intended, but this has little to do with climate change.

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03/11/2016 2:18 PM

The desired engineering outcome was achieved. The flood would have to exceed previous levels to over top the levees and when the flood waters rose enough they did. Seat belts saves lives but we don't mandate NASCAR grade driver and passenger protection for every car on the road.

The 100 year flood stage is not a prediction that only one flood will reach height X every hundred years. It means there is a one percent chance this spot will flood this year and every year after that.

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03/10/2016 10:28 PM

Ahhh, storm events are all about probabilities, not certainties.

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03/11/2016 10:42 AM

"What's so funny?"

"They are rebuilding New Orleans."

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"IN THE SAME PLACE!":-)

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03/13/2016 7:01 AM

The real failure here is to use historic conditions as a prelude to current predictions.

The second failure would seem to be measured levee heights based on local datum points that are in fact sinking on the "sponge" in that delta location.

Every year, every flood deposits more sediment and changes the hydraulics for the whole system. The models need to reflect this new and ever changing reality rather than preume a stable base.

These models may also need adjustment for a revision to sea level in that locality.

I sure hope that the people actually managing the works and prioritisation are not stuck with such a simplistic approach.

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03/14/2016 11:41 AM

The main point behind my blog post is that we lack the data needed to make an accurate prediction of what may occur.

As quoted by the USGS "The accuracy of the 1-percent flood varies depending on the amount of data available, the accuracy of those data, land-use changes in the river drainage area, climate cycles, and how well the data fits the statistical probability distribution. "

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/100yearflood-basic-2.html

I haven't gone through any text books, but I do recall from my studies that the data series required to calculate accurate predictions of a 1% flood would be on the order of thousands if not tens of thousands of years. Mans fight against river dynamics could be skewing the data series, but we lack the data to prove such speculations.

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12/09/2016 12:52 PM

Having previously worked around a few levee projects, I am reminded that one of the more significant unknowns is just how much the (native critters) are going to burrow into the (available) levees...

I think it has to do with the fact that said critters (reportedly) don't tend to care much about statistics, so I've heard...

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12/09/2016 1:03 PM

Do we need more of these guys?

#alligatorgarkillsinvasivespecies

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12/13/2016 4:58 PM

That would depend on the specific species of invasive critters...

All three of those shown above look like they could be kinda invasive, if they wanted to be...

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