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Where's the Love...I Mean Likes, Instagram?

Posted November 16, 2019 12:00 AM by M-ReeD
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In a world where folks measure their self-worth by the number of likes their posts generate, Instagram — arguably Facebook’s classier sibling — is now doing away with the practice, eliminating the visibility of users’ likes.

In a show of said classiness, Instagram has grown weary over the “rat race” acquiring these likes has become and will begin a trial of the new feature this week in the U.S.

According to reports, the move is an attempt to encourage connections among Instagram users versus encouraging competition wherein the user who amasses the most likes “wins.”

For months now, Instagram has tested the hidden-like feature on users in Japan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Ireland, Italy and Brazil to mixed results.

While the new feature is not sitting well with thirsty folks — as the kids today call them — who merely post for the sake of generating likes, in other circles the initiative is thought to help mental health by discouraging such competition.

Worried that folks won’t be able to see how many likes your picture generates? Just cruise on over to Instagram’s sister site Facebook. But fair warning: Facebook may enable users to still see your likes, but she is also a loudmouth who will blab all of your secrets to the highest bidder (I’m talking about you Cambridge Analytica).

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11/16/2019 12:31 AM

Competition is usually a good thing, it produces excellence...but competition for personal popularity, produces politicians....

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11/16/2019 6:45 AM

So what I have to log in to Facebook to know the details of this article?

How's about I don't?

Are you enjoying this pointless read?

Click GA so I know.

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11/18/2019 12:45 AM

Punctuation would help.

Correcting:

So what? I have to...

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11/18/2019 6:28 AM

Thanks! For unscramble my gibberish.

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11/17/2019 8:29 PM

A friend who publishes his academic work via a blog points out that having "like" as an option reduces useless strings of one-word replies of "yes" or "agree" or "!!" and that sort of thing. It's detritus in the information stream, so there is indeed a real use for "like" that doesn't include popularity. He follows stats on likes as one variable to assess reactions to his work, along with views, etc, as do many sites I use. Some generate all sorts of graphs over time to help evaluate external effects on traffic.

Maybe if the "like" count were only available to the original poster or commenter who gets them, as a tool.

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Re: Where's the Love...I Mean Likes, Instagram?. Detritus Indeed !

11/18/2019 9:50 AM

"It's detritus in the information stream" << This comment is profound(GA). Kissup and its reverse without any "why" provided is a major waste of time of thread readers. Kissup is particularly destructive when one is hunting for real content such as an approach to a pressing problem the reader is having. Without knowing the reputation of the comment provider it is simply a major waste of time in the thread archive. In CR4 there is at least a convenient reputation (GA's relative to total posts) but since some worthwhile posters also participate with lots of kissups the time-thief practice still perpetrates its crime.

Librarians have a dual (a yin/yang) that they use to describe search engine results attributes. They characterize a search return corpus on the spectrum of relevance vs recall. Recall is how much stuff you get back and relevance is how useful it is. I like to add another dimension to the spectrum of how much additional depth the answers explore.

In librarian speak, a large recall with low relevance is a major pitfall of search engines. These popularity posts have exactly that character. On CR4 there are quite a few readers who criticize long, detailed posts with great depth but think kissups with zero relevance or depth are just fine. They are annoyed when they are challenged to actually think about a comment as opposed to just being able to feel good about the sign on the kissup post matching their opinion. If the sign on the in-depth post opinion does not match their opinion, they do not proffer an explanation, they merely rate the other comment as off-topic and usually also post a kurt, "no" or some other content-free drivel. I consider this unscientific and a major waste of time for all of us trying to model reality. In short, it is also detritus to be waded-thru and culled.

As an inherent level of culling, I propose that GA's and off-topics be required to have explanations which do not appear directly in the original thread. The poster still has the ability to post additionally in the original thread but would have at least a little responsibility to evaluate their own relevance vs recall prior to explicitly imposing such a post on the original thread readers. The GA's and off-topic's spin-off thread would be available as a branch link off of any rated original thread comment thus isolating detritus into a see-also thread which could be explored explicitly by readers of the original thread if they were interested in a more in-depth discussion of the issues spawned in response to the original thread post. This capability is one of the major advantages of hypertext and needs to be gainfully employed. Using this spin-off thread inherent in GA/off-topic management could reduce the time readers of CR4 threads would need to spend to review the direct comments to any specific topic while not preventing them from reaching down into the see-also(kissup) tangents. I realize that posters can already create new threads of their own initiative but the kissup GA/off-topic posters(including me with my frequently excessive depth) need a little default encouragement, IMHO. The see-also threads could also be included in any table of contents/index pages with the rated post number and a See-Also#PostNumberSuffix for OriginalPostTitle label and hyperlink to the OriginalPostThread.

I realize that I am implicitly assigning work to CR4 administrators that they may not need or want. BlueRibbon and others: Please consider this as a suggestion rather than a demand and include it, or not, in your plans or outplans as you see fit within your time available. I am already pleased with how you run this site and my perception of your judgement is already high. Realize that I am suggesting a new thread for every newly rated (not each rating) post on your forum. Over time this would generate an "extra" thread for every comment that gets rated but it isolates the see-also comments into their own set of threads which are the new likely site for management of flame wars and other problems rather than the original thread. One might detach an entire flame war by merely delinking the see-also until appropriate clean-up can be implemented. An empty see-also might be attached in the interim so that non-problem posts can continue as long as the new empty link follows forum guidelines. The alternative see-only might or might not include a cleanup-in-progress notification to encourage a cease-fire. Happily, my perception is that this forum is relatively low conflict so far but it is always nice to have tools allowing administrators to act easily to douse any flame war sparks and gently feed back to groups of participants that they are becoming loose cannons without completely shutting down their ids unless they persist.

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11/18/2019 11:30 AM

In the case of Google these days, relevance seems determined by who pay them the most for placement in the searches. Just give me a true "relevance" rank related to what i am searching for.

I am so tired of results based on what i have searched or viewed in the past and the pay to place BS. And the google ads... search for something 1 time and you will see ads related for 2 months, whether you were really interesting in it or just surfing around on whatever crossed your mind for the day.

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11/18/2019 2:53 PM

"Progress" Rant: Now Everyone Knows You're a Dog Even If You Are Not

I seems to me that even when I explicitly try to block their irrelevant returns that they "help" me by changing my search.... Infuriating ! I weary of data mining predators, government nannies, and presumptuous marketeering. It is enough to drive me into becoming a Luddite despite a lifetime of working to develop IT. I judge that we were better off before the Ivy League Business Schools took notice of the Internet. Maybe we should defund them until they clean up their act. At the very least, some young entrepreneur should start a search engine site which swears off of the business hooks and gives you exactly the search you specify without ever attempting to determine who you are. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."... was an early catchphrase. Now, the Internet not only surprisingly knows you are a dog but also that you have a weakness for lamb flavored kibbles. It will return lamb kibble hits even if you search for canine prosthetic limbs -kibble. Disgusting !

Another disgusting thing is that if you give Google some supertechie search you are very likely to get porn and music hits in your results. I have never sought out porn and have very little interest in searches about music. A few years back I searched for sonoluminescence and there were more porn and more music hits than science and technology hits combined. After that search all of my searches had porn and music returns despite my efforts to suppress such content. They made an error and then associated me with their error. I really do not care exactly why it happened this way but I am absolutely certain and appalled that it did.

I really find it absurd that anyone can be prosecuted for what browser history "shows" that they have looked at(for) since search engines seem to wildly choose what to return. While it is true that one would be hard pressed to find any pornographic content in any of my explicitly created directories(folders), I have no doubt that my cache and browser histories and my email folder named "huh"(I stick unsolicited stuff here until it ages a bit and no acquaintance says I need to look at it) are littered with links to smut. Sometimes I can tell just from an email subject or a link URL that incoming stuff is garbage but sometimes they sprinkle little fragments of my real interests in just to pique my curiosity. Since I use Linux mostly and Windows infrequently, things are not as bad as they otherwise would be since Linux does not, as a practice, assume you want to run anything you touch(eg., porn downloads) that can be run.

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11/20/2019 3:16 PM

Just turn off your search history...or make it like a day or two....you can do this in google and chrome or probably any other browser you are using...

https://stopad.io/blog/shut-off-browser-tracking

  1. Access google.com using any browser app.
  2. Tap Sign-in to sign in using your Gmail ID.
  3. Tap the Settings link at the bottom, and then select Search settings.
  4. Tap Manage, which located beside Search History.
  5. Next, tap the Settings button.
  6. On the Settings page, tap Turn off.
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11/23/2019 10:55 PM

I use duckduckgo.com for searches. Eliminates all that google goop.

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11/18/2019 12:16 PM

BestInShow,

My apologies for unintentionally demoting you. I briefly forgot your actual user name and used BlueRibbon as a substitute. Later, I remembered your correct(and probably more descriptive) id but, unfortunately, I got too immersed in fixing other errors I had made in my post and forgot to fix your id before posting.

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11/18/2019 6:37 AM

Isn't ticking 'like' in Instagram much the same as ticking GA here?...or 'Off-Topic....often abused ..... as an equivalent to 'don't like' ?

Personally I tend to ignore the GA's (except for picture quizzes), but following the OT threads are often interesting.

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11/18/2019 9:37 PM

But CR4 is the only social media I actually visit. If the GA count and Post count went away, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. Actual responses mean a lot more than a 'like'. Or an O.T.

(But sometimes an O.T. is positive confirmation you hit a nerve. )

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11/23/2019 6:59 PM

I thought both FB and Instag have the option to choose the recipients of your posts.

Instagram: By default, anyone can see your profile and posts on Instagram. You can make your account private so that only followers you approve can see what you share. If your account is set to private, only your approved followers will see your photos or videos on hashtag or location pages.

Facebook: "The audience selector also appears alongside things you've already shared, so it's clear who can see each post. After you've shared a post, you have the option to change who it's shared with. If you want to change the audience of a post after you've shared it, click the audience selector and select a new audience.

CR4 should, in my opinion, either do away with GA/OT votes (remove the history too) or tag the voter so that they are known to all. Same with cancelling votes.

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05/26/2020 7:55 AM

Unfortunately, you are right. People need to get a lot of likes to feel confident and that's a real problem. The same thing is with TikTok. I know that everybody tries to get as much cheap tiktok followers as possible. Of course, it can bring popularity but people should work on their confidence first.

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I agree with your saying about the competition. And I don't like being part of it at all.

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