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Astronaut Tragedy

Posted December 27, 2007 12:01 AM by M&M_aero

Last week, a very tragic and sad experience happened to astronaut Daniel M. Tani. His 90 year old mother was killed in a car accident. What makes this story even sadder is that Daniel is currently aboard the International Space Station, with the next possible launch of a space shuttle to return him to Earth scheduled for late January.

The astronaut's wife, a ground flight surgeon, told Daniel the news during a video conference. Tani is very broken up about the news, of course, as he is very close and devoted to his mother. She raised his brothers and him alone after Daniel's father passed away when he was 4.

Daniel Tani has been in space since late October and was scheduled originally to come home on December 6; however, a fuel gauge problem delayed the launch of Atlantis until late January.

This situation, the first time anything like this has happened to an American astronaut while in space, raises the question of whether NASA should implement an emergency evacuation system for astronauts to return to Earth if need be. If we were to implement such a system, how would we build it? What would be the most economical approach? Is such as system even feasible?

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12/28/2007 9:20 AM

While this is tragic, it is certainly within the job parameters that all astronauts sign up to perform.

What are the boundaries of reasonability?

In another paradigm, if a soldier's mother dies do they get to come home? It's certainly cheaper for airfare from Iraq to the US, than from Space to Earth.

That soldier has a duty to perform. Same as the astronaut.

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12/28/2007 12:09 PM

I hate to deem to be unsympathetic, but at 90, she could have died from many different reasons and that should have been planned in the excursion so to say......my Mother was dead at 88.....many people die MUCH earlier....thats life!

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12/30/2007 7:34 AM

Judging by the advertising this blog has attracted, one wonders what business M&M Aero is actually in--or might have connections to!

Maybe the astronaut will see this discussion, check the margins, and know who to turn to?

Another vote for your to-the-valid-point answer.

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12/30/2007 4:10 PM

I am currently an aerospace and mechanical engineering student at RPI graduating in May. I am currently not tied to any aerospace company.

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12/31/2007 5:21 AM

M&M aero:

Glad to hear it...and congratulations in advance on attaining to your degree. I have been tied to aerospace...and if that's the path you choose, best wishes for success.

It was not aerospace companies my post was concerned with, but the various funeral, grief counselling services, burial insurance and such that appeared in the ad column (over there on the lower right) of CR4 board page last night as I was looking over these threads. Those ads seemed a bit ...well, peculiar and unexpected to be appearing here...and I couldn't resist the opportunity to rib you a little about maybe attracting them with talk of "tragedy." Understand it's all in fun (can I say that here?), and I really had doubts you are actually connected to any of the "grief" industries. Anyway, for some reason those ads are all gone tonight--hopefully never to return. Tonight the ads are all about geneology...a step in the right direction, I suppose.

Thanks for your clarification, though.

PS. If your blog offering causes board administrators to pay closer attention to the kinds of ads that a bulletin board can attract, that will be a good thing, too, don't you think?

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12/31/2007 10:14 AM

Hello, CowAnon

You raise a good issue here! The contents of the ad column are a function of a program called Google Ad Sense. According to the world's leading search engine, "Ad Sense delivers relevant text and image ads that are precisely targeted to your site and your site content."

It sounds to me like Google has some work to do on its Ad Sense algorithm! This story may talk about death and dying, but CR4 sure isn't "the funeral director's place for news and discussion." (No offense intended to any funeral directors out there.)

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12/31/2007 11:06 PM

Hi, Moose. Nice to "see" from you.

No offense to any algorithn writers, but for Google to work on theirs to make them conditionally less relevant might be a non-starter. But, even if they did/could, there's alway those...unintended consequences. Who knows? Maybe, instead of funeral directors, it'd be relationship counsellors, anger management purveyors, spiritual advisors, mediums/palmsters/tarot & tea leaf readers, Brothers This & Sisters That, and shrink-dot-coms of all sorts coming by to help us lighten up--both of angst and of our money? Anyway, funereal (pun?) directors deserve to have "fun," too; and occasional mal-apropos ads can be entertaining--a diversion from all the deadpan earnestness and seriousness on these CR4 fora--at least for those of us unfortunate enough to have these big, wide monitor screens.

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12/28/2007 12:17 PM

The Big Kahuna has presented the right perspective. A space travel emergency should be reserved for the life safety of the space traveler.

While Mr. Tani is in space, he should take advantage of the solitude and proximity to the heavens to speak to his maker.

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12/28/2007 1:37 PM

My Thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Tani. I do have to agree as I am sure Mr. Tani does an evacuation vehical should be for life threating situations only. With todays technologies his mothers funeral can be held off until his return. It is always better to greave with family and loved ones but in his situation it is best to look to the stars and greave with his maker and celibrate the 90 years of his mothers life.

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12/30/2007 7:41 AM

Or keep focused on the job and grieve when time and circumstance permits. But probably Mr. Tani is better equipped than too many Americans to deal reasonably with matter of fact life events. Who could have imagined an engineering blog such as this one?

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12/29/2007 12:30 AM

I feel response #1 made it as clear as it could be stated. Especially with regard to soldiers.

There is another alternative at this link........here

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12/30/2007 7:22 AM

Let us be clearer about what constitutes "tragedy." Have never seen it defined as "the death of a dying person of great years when a child is out of town." If that's the criterion, then I and many others no doubt have far, far more government largess coming than that astronaut's situation has been supposed to merit. Yes, a person deserves a day off to attend to parent/next-of-kin death matters; but transportation is usually--no, invariably--the responsibility of the survivor, not the employer. Also, all airlines will chip in to help with transportation, but that's talking a few $hundred at most--not $billions as relieving a space-faring astronaut would require.

Moderation in all things seems to be the operative answer here. No doubt, Mr. Tani, himself, would see the idea of evacuating from orbit to a funeral as more than a bit obscene.

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12/30/2007 11:54 AM

Agreed.

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03/09/2008 8:50 PM

My prayers go out for Astronaut Daniel M. Tani his Mother and family and friends of all.

This is my first news of this and it is a disheartening read and subject.

Money sometimes is not to concider. "Leave no one behind" is a good moto.

The STS-107 crew could have all been saved and I'm sure one day that on top of a rescue vehicle, that a cruise ship to go out for something like a cup of coffee will be part of the equipment as well as a vehicle for emergencys.

Off topic a bit, I have always believed in something like a mother's intuition, that in her intuitions she can just feel somethings no matter what the distance.

Another tangent farther off topic I will pursue on the forums is the "engineering of prayers"...though my first thoughts are based on feelings and understandings, is that something else beside words and faith are involved; fasting a note as well as maybe others..

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