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Superconductor Electric Vehicle

Posted June 12, 2008 3:56 PM

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Sumitomo Electric has developed what is being called the world's first automobile powered by a superconducting motor. The electric passenger sedan (a modified Toyota Crown Comfort), which is powered by a 365-kilowatt high-temperature superconducting motor cooled by liquid nitrogen, was unveiled in Osaka on June 12 and will go on display at the Hokkaido Toyako G8 Summit on June 19. Superconductors — energy-efficient materials that can carry electrical current without resistance — are used in applications ranging from medical devices to linear motors for trains. Until now, however, they have never been used to power an automobile, says Sumitomo. Sumitomo's motor uses high-temperature superconducting wires instead of the copper wire typically used in the coils in electric vehicle motors. When cooled to an extremely low temperature, electrical resistance and current loss are reduced to nearly zero, so the motor can operate with greater energy efficiency and torque — in other words, the motor uses less electricity to do the same amount of work. The company says the prototype vehicle can travel 10% farther than conventional electric vehicles running on the same type of battery. The development comes as demand for electric vehicles grows, and as manufacturers step up efforts to improve battery and motor performance to increase the distance that vehicles can travel on a single charge. Sumitomo intends to further improve the motor with the aim of putting a vehicle on the market in the not-too-distant future. The company is looking to develop superconductor motors for buses and trucks as well. [Sources: Nikkei, Yomiuri]

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06/12/2008 6:50 PM

Is this anything more than a marketing gimmick? Off the top of my head, it seems the cost of the liquid nitrogen -- both purchase price and the environmental cost of production -- more than offsets the reported 10% improvement.

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06/13/2008 11:15 PM

pantaz:Worse than that.

"powered by a 365-kilowatt high-temperature superconducting motor cooled by liquid nitrogen," This is pure BS. Super conductors must be kept at LN2 temperature to be superconducting. A 365-Kw motor would take a short time to boil away all the LN2 that the modified Toyota Crown Comfort could carry.

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06/14/2008 9:25 PM

Holyyyy Macaaarronii.. Accordingly with that found then we'll still checking out what is the real deal down the road in other words. Did sounds strong stuff such 365 Kw first hand otherwise. Unbelievable! Better to double check it out -just in case- then definetly. Allrigth Buddies we'll stay looking ahead forward all.

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06/15/2008 3:26 PM

If this is really a superconductor, then it has no electrical resistance. Since P=I^2*R, then no power would be dissipated. Where is the 365KW going?

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06/15/2008 5:00 PM

The wheels?

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06/19/2008 8:03 PM

We used to hear about superconducting trains that were levitated by magnetism. They would have no wheels. I always wondered how they go uphill. That, of course, would take energy as Garthh pointed out.

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06/15/2008 5:33 PM

Friction

gearboxes, tires, areodynamic.

There would also be substantial loses from the refrigeration system.

Most of the power is probably devoted to the refergiration.

Would there be any room for passengers with all this stuff onboard?

365 kw would sure make a quick little taxicab, if all the power was devoted to going down the road. A 10% gain would be decent, considering the indirect path.

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06/15/2008 5:15 PM

"365-kilowatt high-temperature superconducting motor cooled by liquid nitrogen,"

Use the LN2 to Drive and Isothermal Expannsion Engine!

No need for the electric motor.

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