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Management Systems et al ISO 9000/TS 16949

Posted August 14, 2009 9:00 PM by davah

These two systems if used as they were intended and not as an adjunct to management can add a lot of revenue to the bottom line of a company. This can vary from a few percentage points to doubling the companies bottom line. These systems are not inventions but simply a distillation of already proven good management. What a shame and a waste that at the best the attempt at these systems is usually all in the name of keeping auditors happy rather than the original intent which was to gain in efficiency and to satisfy customers of quality of product. As with most 'so called' inventions they are a distillation of already proven methods. But there is always a problem with a distillation, as with the jet engine, people see it being used but do not understand the function. This necessitates at least one person in a company getting to grips with the wording of the product and explaining it as best as possible to their colleagues. This is best done diagrammatically as shown: ISO 9000, TS 16949.

For this you will need the file reader from Mindmanager viewer.

If you are going to explain these systems using the MM diagrams you might as well make them live and use hyperlink connections to connect your internal paperwork to the maps.

Having done this it is an easy matter to conduct a gap analysis which can be carried out by the owners of that part of the system.

It is also an easy matter to see the overlap in the system were work is being done two or three times.

Taking out the overlap, gap analysing and instant access to documentation creates wealth and bottom line profit immediately cutting meaningless hours of meetings and releasing people to the real work they are paid for doing.

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08/16/2009 4:04 AM

the attempt at these systems is usually all in the name of keeping auditors happy.

Yup, you got it in one...all show and no go.
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08/16/2009 9:33 AM

I tried to open the charts and got 123 file server something.

Del has it about right as far as what I've seen.

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08/17/2009 9:40 AM

The company I work at has the ISO9000 certificate. It should be mature by now, since it was certified in 2005. The problem I see is the lack of numerical analysis done by the process owners. People have the metrics, but don´t do anything with them. How are we suppose to improve when people don´t know what the numbers mean.

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08/17/2009 3:13 PM

Ah yes!

You must think of more 'Key Performance Indicators' to measure...
so you can waste more time producing figures that no-one knows what the heck to do with.
Yes folks we had 9 customer returns last months...
Lets see if we can get that into double figures this month.
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12/06/2009 8:01 AM

Hi

I found that a member asked same question in this forum 4 month ago.

Pls use search box to find this questions.

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Re: Management Systems et al ISO 9000/TS 16949

04/01/2013 7:53 AM

Hi,

The link is not working, can anyone please reupload it back ?

Thanks in advance.

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