Would You Move for a Job?

If you're well-grounded, lot's of issues - the 1st being able to sell / transfer domicile - which is either at a loss, or tough to sell at all

Most Company's nowadays don't offer anything close to the Relo packages once in place as standards...

You also face the fact that without guarantees, what happens if they decide to rightsize soon after you arrive? this happens all too often...

If I'm a young buck - then yes, I'm all-in!

Moving is the norm for me. In the last 10yrs I have worked in WA, AL, MO, TX and currently in OK. However as a contractor it is the life I chose and do love it.

I'm still trying to latch on to that Hawaii gig.

I have enjoyed working from coast to coast in the United States. Learning about a new area, meeting new people is something I enjoy. No guts, no glory.

BUT, I learned the hard way that if you are going to move a family to an area where your options are limited (meaning, there is not a broad base of other career opportunities) require a generous severance package IN WRITING that is legally binding no matter what happens to the company or your hiring manager. It's not about you or the company; it's ALL about "putting food on the table" and a whole lot more.

This is trick question right?

I've moved many times in my 35 + year career, but drew the line at taking a promotion that involved moving back to the city (Brisbane).

The moving around has involved buying and selling real estate and even without any market problems like the US is currently enduring, buying and selling is a merry go round. Friends who haven't moved have not had to work as hard, but I have a more rounded skills bank for taking the challenges.

None of my moves have been forced though, rather I've been seeking opportunity.

Hmmm, those squirrels outside look like monkeys......

Ever done it Steve or are you sitting back and relaxing? Mike

Migration is an inevitable activity of all living beings on earth. With the evolution of cities and companies with long term standing settled tenure has become man's passion, family, job, income etc.

History for that matter, even the very country U.S had been evolved out of migrants from U.K and other parts of the world.

Migration brings new opportunities, better placement of talent needs and growth prospects for the region. Whatever be the pains of migrants- the end result being a new adventure and life passage. This trend may even shift to global nature crossing seas too.

With the inception of the latest communication gadgets being in touch with family is all that simple and distances are no bars.

Let us be prepared for the distant ventures. It adds surely new dimensions about life and experience.

Early in this Recession several reports indicated that in the US this one was different than recessions of the past. It was reported that while past recessions were often geographically confined to specific areas, like say Detroit, or Buffalo, or Pittsburg, individuals and families could move to areas where there were more opportunities, this recession in the US would be more general and universally felt throughout the nation.

The reasons for this are pretty well understood as the housing Bubble, Financial market manipulations, and the movement of manufacturing jobs out of the Nation.

When I heard that John Edwards was engaged in a study of the reasons for poverty, I suggested he give me a call saying it hardly takes a genius to figure out that War and Corruption keep people poor.

I myself in the course of my life was often "forced" to move, though I often look back now and wonder if the relocations did me more harm than good.

Often enough it would appear that my willingness to change jobs, and change careers, and move hopefully from one area to another ruptured ties and relationships and networks that are impossible to replace "online".

The factors that work now to basically "trap" those of the US where they are many fold, some seemingly ignored. One factor I feel that is underrated has been the rise in the need for two incomes, for there was a time in the US when basically only one Breadwinner was required to run the finances of a home, and a family, and when Dad found a better job, he could more easily move the family.

The Legacy of inflationary periods in the US often seem to have pushed family incomes to their absolute limits.

It pretty much does turn out to be a "Trick" question, for what is the point of moving if when you need two incomes pretty much across the board to run one home, and one of you may lose their job, if you move for one far away as across the board pay for what you may be skilled at is also being reduced, and there is the likelihood that for your partner, their job would be difficult to replace?

There may well be no net gain at all.

Certainly for the young and relatively unencumbered and single, moving for work makes a good deal of sense, but for many, it simply does not add up as a desirable option at this time.

Dear dadw5boys, In the scheme of things two hundred and seventy thousand jobs doesn't sound like many at all to me.

Are all of these jobs with the Federal government in Washington DC?

Apparently if you have young children, the schools there are really dangerous or lousy, or both.

My brother has a good friend who writes Grant Proposals for a living, and lives here in IGX, but won't live in DC because of the fact he has young children of school age.

I'd not be surprised at all if all the jobs were with the IRS.

Seems like if you haven't filed for Bankruptcy and have tried to pay your bills you were a foolish puppy.

The Header for this Blog Thread, is "Would You Move for a Job?"

As things were devolving and I was often out at the Landfill in the sector of work that had become all that was in front of me to do for a paycheck, one of the guys out there said, "PA is pretty depressing whenever I go back, since the only people that have halfway decent jobs, work for the government."

Around here they teach Mandarin to second graders.

That's progressive.

If I were unmarried without children, I would move. Since I am married and have 2 children that are actively involved in their community, it is very unlikely that I would move. If I were unemployed for an extended period and found a good opportunity elsewhere, I might change my mind. It depends on how long the family would be willing to eat beans and rice to keep our home.

Very factual statement and it is true in many job dependent cases.

new study and all others,

If you have planned your life for dynamic job and are always finding client on the earth anywhere then moving out is there right in your blood and in true sense you are having legs for moving.

Others usually get themselves fixed to position or place like tree, very deep rooted to place and in adverse conditions feel up-rooted, without ground or base and fear out side world very badly as if there is forest all out there and they will get lost if moved out.

It is very natural fear in humans and we all are not same type from inside as we all do not over come fear in similar way. Imagine how defense people can go anywhere on earth and fight fearlessly and may never return home. They get rid of their fear in their tough training. We need to have such training for all people as a part of HR management. This increases capacity of people to survive in adverse conditions and of being at odd places or odd situations.

Shyam,

Well said on reservations to migration. One got to have a balanced outlook in handling this dilemma.

The main factors one got to make sure during migration could be,

*The job confidence, ability to learn and quick adaptability to changes

*Learning and grasping new things

*Getting along with people politely and getting accepted- This is a major criteria, that the person's behaviour in groups, his compatibility with others and other's compatibility with him calls for major sociability and inter personnel skills.

*Changes are part of every one's life and success rely on how one handles that.

*Ability to over come home sickness.

*Sharpening one's skills and knowledge gives better confidence levels than being a confined routine job lover.

s.udhayamarthandan

Wold is very competitive and forces are not always external but come from within your own zone. People become competitive and exert force on others to be more competitive to survive. When space shrinks and going gets tough then moving out is one best choice. Who moves out is not a question but some should move out and need to find more space.

I was from farmer's family and I decided to move out such that my brothers can survive on the limited resource, the land that existed from my father. I could find greater space for myself in doing so. Many civilizations took such decisions and they moved out and again moved out to spread over the world.

If you are conscious about others, then you will give them some space to survive and find greater pace for yourself elsewhere due to your ability. This happens when you reach saturation limit and it tends to be negative if stressed further.

I am very happy to create a new space for me and also ready to provide support to others to find that little space. It is much greater feeling for me in this way of living. When it comes to survival, it winds over attitude to be on top. It is all right to live along with others and share wealth with others, laugh and survive together happy.

Education should bring enterprising skills, adventurous attitudes, confidence and great leadership skills. I think you made a good choice. Keep it up and be a beacon light to others

s.udhayamarthandan,

Good education is becoming difficult and very expensive. Over and above there are more educated lot now and with limited opportunities. However, there is lot possible to make this place earth worth living and hence, jobs like small hotels, motels, workshops, roadside service centers, rest rooms, refreshment centers, small efficient businesses, culture and value systems by art, music and road shows are all equally valuable. If world is only engineers, doctors and finances then it will go to dogs very soon. People need to find love and peace in just being on earth and not in burning earth resources and making it dirty.

I am more impressed by a saint living alone on hill top with almost zero resources for decades feeling happy praying God for humanity to persist. Almost 90% of earth resources are wasted and we live in that garbage most of the time thinking we are progressive people. Neat clean experiments and useful for humanity at large are OK.

If you think, on this earth this is the only life for you then you tend to destroy it. Believing that you have to come here millions times, you tend to keep it much better for yourself and also for others.

World has not yet fully learnt and implemented to respect the dignity of labor. It is still opportunistic world. I am talking about those who are at below threshold to survive. They are the testing ground for those who think and claim to be civilized and care not for them. Wind of wealth flows one way from rich to richer and more richer and is against the nature's basic law. Is there a limit in one's mind of how richness is enough and enough is enough. World is a shared place, and even though we all accept it in theory, we reject it out right in practice. Then there are people ready to grab by hook or cook anything and everything. Weather to grab lot of it at gun point or by ignorance of people and country law, it is all same. One good reason that projects were under control of people thru their government to let people share the wealth.

Prof. Shyam,

Nature is so gracious and generous in giving out everything to its subjects- all the living beings. There is ample time and scope for mankindto get changed, because mankind is the superior most being in nature's creation.

The massive population growth Vs opportunities, no doubt there are imbalancements- But mankind will surely understand its implications and expected to behave responsibly.

It is of a cultural, social and futuristic value that the generations will get changed as well as providing solutions to all problems- It is the way the evolution process had taken place.

Let us think positively and contribute to its welfare with a great deal of patience, perseverance, scientific outlook and a tireless leadership attitude.

Struggle for survival is the reality of all living beings and not confined tp humanity alone and the fittest gets seasoned to tackle its difficulties.

Keep thinking and working on the positive side of things, sure there is a way out.

Regards.

Ah...imbalance of population versus growth?. The imbalance can be that opportunities exceed growth. We can educate/inspire/nurture and manifest the expectation of unlimited wealth.

"We have achieved this ability through the most common, the most powerful, and the most consistently underestimated force in our lives today--technology" -Paul Zane Pilzer.

So a move to advance or continue the opportunity of unlimited resources is justified.