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Kill a Tree, Build a Chair

Posted September 22, 2008 8:28 AM

Industrial designers have a thorough knowledge of materials — from metals and plastics to glass and ceramics. That's why celebrated designer Philippe Starck touts polycarbonate as the greener material, compared to products made of bioplastic ("which comes from something that people eat") or wood ("the stupidity of the ecological movement "). Why is he right... or wrong?

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09/22/2008 1:08 PM

Mankind has been harvesting trees without killing them for millennia. It's called copicing and woodland management.

(The smell chucker doesn't recognize 'coppicing'... D'uh)

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09/23/2008 7:17 AM

Hi Del,

I congratulate you on your answer, one of my cousins is a woodlands manager and he taught me all about copicing many years ago.

And here is another thing I will tell you about so-called environmentalists, two weeks ago I went to an environmentalist meeting in Wolverhampton just to hear what they had to say! Surprise, Surprise, they all arrived in petrol or diesel driven cars, two of them where 4x4s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then there is all this talk about global warming an CO2 levels caused by , yes, you and all the others! My question then is, why are we letting global companies chop down vast areas of tropical rain forest???????????????

I have actually seen the devastion in the Amazon river area, but it is forest such as these that absorbe the CO2.

I would realy like an answer to this one!!!!!

Spencer.

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09/22/2008 2:33 PM

"The stupidity of the ecological movement is that people kill trees for wood. It's ridiculous. The best ecological strategy is to make products of a very high creative quality, so you can keep them for three generations. I prefer to make a very good chair in the best polycarbonate than make any shit in wood that will be in the trash one year later."

I do not know how much greener you can get than a tree. Which is a renewable resource. More so than polycarbonate which is from petroleum. We all know what problems we are having with that in todays market.

As far as the life of the product. That goes to the craftsmen who built it and the care thru out that life. I have seen quite a few pieces of furniture over ten generation old best he wants to due is three. Wait until they go to mass production how many will make a year

One other thing is if I put that wood furniture in a landfill I know its going to decay with some benefit to the soil. The polycarbonate who knows what?

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09/23/2008 9:06 AM

I concur - GA to you! This guy is a blatherskite babbling greenspeak. I have some furniture made of wood that belonged to my Great-Grandparents, some from my Grandparents, and some from my Parents. Good quality stuff that has worn well. And in Copenhagen, I once saw cane-bottom wood chairs in a church that were over 400 years old (the newer furniture there!). Polycarbonate will do well to last half as long, and be a problem (as mentioned) in the landfill when it is tossed out. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time...

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09/23/2008 4:12 PM

Almost all of my furniture is old wooden stuff that I bought as junk in a junk shop. It was well built in its day and with a little TLC it lives again for my household. I have always thought that any furniture, wooden or otherwise should be built to last for generations!

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09/24/2008 11:46 AM

"I do not know how much greener you can get than a tree. Which is a renewable resource."

Quite true, so GA. Plus wood is so much more beautiful than any plastic.

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09/28/2008 1:46 PM

I designed a chair which I sell as WonderChair.Will last 10 years+

Basic model is 2>2.4Kg(depending on variety of bamboo slats used for: Seat,SwivellingBack,heelrest. Sells @ $5. No need of any Cushion. Ventilates your body in summer or winter.

I have no doubt that WonderChair is THE chair for anyone caring for his/her spine's long term health.

No Wood Here. No Killing.No PolyCarbonate.Nothing from Crude Oil.Bamboo loves being harvested--to shoot and grow new.

The only thing lacking in this WonderChair is SnobValue.

Will be THE Chair -probably after I am gone.

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09/29/2008 8:13 AM

I'm intrigued. How do we get ahold of one of these?

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09/29/2008 9:07 AM

Yeah, I might just pony up 5 bucks plus freight just for the sake of having one...

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09/29/2008 9:13 AM

That's what I'm saying. For five bucks, I wouldn't mind even buying one sight unseen.

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11/22/2008 4:32 PM

The more I read, the more I like Bamboo.

I hang around some sites where the design and construction of "ultralight" gliders and sailplanes are discussed. Of course the materials discussed are usually wood, styrofoam, aluminum, fiberglass and carbon fiber/strips/rods,etc.

But occasionally Bamboo is talked about. Recently we saw photos of some bicycle frames made from it.

Carbon may be the ultimate material for a light and strong flying apparatus, but in todays world I think that Bamboo may be the best all-around, taking into consideration the environment, and health issues associated with the carbon fibers and the epoxies used with it. Obtainability, for someone on a budget, favors bamboo.

I recently bought a bamboo woven basket at a garage sale. At sometime it had been painted and so was 'glued' together. It's strength and rigidity were outstanding, considering it's light weight.

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