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Making Transportation a National Priority

Posted December 17, 2008 8:17 AM

Change is indeed in the air, and one of the biggest areas needing a change is our transportation infrastructure — in all sectors. Bridges are falling into rivers, no new runways have been added at a major airport since 1995, and highways and railroads are crying out for maintenance and upgrades. One estimate puts the need for investment at $1.2 trillion over the next 10 years. Should transportation be one of the nation's top priorities? Where should we begin? How can we finance it?

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12/18/2008 6:05 PM

The next phase of transit is into the air. Roads are free in the air.... The virtual roads are in the display. All what is needed is for air to be cheaper and safer than ground transit, which requires a new engine, and new airplane technology. Working on both as I type this...

Our road tax should fund all road repair. No money should be taken from the general fund. If you use it, then you pay for it. Taking it out of the general fund should give a congressman the (political) death penalty...

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12/19/2008 1:09 AM

No money should be taken from the general fund. If you use it, then you pay for it. Taking it out of the general fund should give a congressman the (political) death penalty...

The Death penalty for treasonous embezzlement. The same as the thieves of the social security fund deserve. And the ones who accept it are guilty of aiding and abetting a treasonous conspiracy. ‡-(

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12/20/2008 5:56 PM

I'll second that.

But who is going to enforce it. Those that are already doing it? I think not.

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12/22/2008 8:45 AM

just a thought, but globalspec recently had a news story on a polytechnic here in the UK who have noticed that asphalt gets hot in the summer and cold in the winter. Big deal you might say, everyone knows that, except that the ground under the asphalt remains at a different temperature, thus giving a temperature differential and thus the sbility to use this to generate power. If this works out, the US could begin the relaying of the massive amount of asphalt used on your roads and generate free electricity along the way thus lessening the reliance upon oil and making a greener, cheaper existence possible. Hmmm are there any politicians in the entire world who are honest enough and far thinking enough to do this?

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12/22/2008 3:31 PM

Lastoneleft,

Before we dig up 100,000's of mile of road, why don't you dig up your driveway, and figure out how to do it on a small scale. Then go from there...

The key point being, that government is NOT designed to take on risky ventures, or any ventures for that matter, that we cannot do by ourselves. Private capital is. If our gov leadership were to "believe" in such a plan, print dollars, and it all fails, who is to blame or recover the costs? Get the point. Government has no business doing business. It kills engineering jobs, for one.

I think MOST of the current downturn is because Government is getting involved and CREATING risk where none existed before. They did it on the upside via Fannie and friends, and now on the downside via Paulsen and company.

If I were to want to start a car company, doing some serious innovations, of course, like any good engineer, would I want an Auto bailout? NO!!!!! Let the competition die, and let us pick up the "used" assets and put those to work, along with all the layed off employees, minus the union thugs. We are at a great point in the cycle and now government is killing innovation!

I think every government person must be required to sign away ALL of his/her person wealth...for life...to engage in any business venture for the government outside the narrow band of its responsibilities. If the project is a joke, like SS, medicare,.... then those persons who voted for it and are in charge are broke...for life... Private Ventures put their money where the heart and mouth is...now it is time for government to do the same. You want to sit in the Senate hot seat...put up...or shut up...

From my view, most, except for Paul and Inhofe to name a few, are so far bankrupt as to be in debt for millions of years... enough said...

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12/22/2008 4:50 PM

one of the founding reasons for the creation of the FED is to "prevent private capital formation" as that (private capital pools) would make the country impervious to control.

read Ed Griffin's "The Creature From Jekyll Island" to learn more.

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12/22/2008 7:25 PM

Chris,

I have the book. What page was that on? It has been a while...

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12/22/2008 8:09 PM

at the moment I only have the CD. so I can't tell you...

http://files.meetup.com/505355/Federal%20Reserve%20by%20Edward%20Griffin.doc

it is on the bottom page 22 of this transcript. You might be able to find it under "Report Card" if there is such a chapter.

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12/22/2008 11:27 PM

Chris,

Thanks for sharing that link.

Does he offer any solution to the problem? I saw the problem outlined. Perhaps there's a chapter in his book on it.

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12/23/2008 11:36 AM

The solution I like best is in the zeitgeist addendum.. you can see that on google.

but you can go to his website www.realityzone.com.. there you should find more info, such as the ongoing new currency plan. I believe the raison d'etre for 'the creature' was to 'abolish the fed'

there is no shortage of ideas for what to do. What there is a lack of is the authority to make the changes. the dark side of the force has taken control. even Obama won't be making these changes, regardless of how people oriented he is.

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12/23/2008 4:26 AM

Dear Seaplane guy,

Thanks for the inauguration into the disgruntled America. The posting is talking about making transportation a priority, in simple terms your transportation network as a whole. That includes the road network, rail network and air flight network. Well the rail network is already in private hands, so no problem there for you. It already reilies heavily on its freight business and generally tries to ignore its passenger service as much as possible. I am sure that you government won't get involved in that one! Your air flight network is in a similar position with the roles reversed, i.e. you look at freight as the problem and rely heavily on the passenger trade.

Now we come to the road network, unless you are suggesting that private enterprise should run the road network, which seems to be at odds with your earlier statement

"Our road tax should fund all road repair. No money should be taken from the general fund. If you use it, then you pay for it. Taking it out of the general fund should give a congressman the (political) death penalty..."

Now as I am in the UK and not totally up to speed with the US taxation system or why and where that money is spent I can only assume that there is some form of road taxation that should go to fund the repairing of the road network, correct me if I am wrong. Secondly, I was merely pointing out that if you are reparing roads, and that often includes ripping up the old asphalt and replacing it with new, why not use that as a resource. Imagine an idyllic time where America would be able to generate enough power from intelligent sustainable sources so as not to rely on the rest of the world for oil, ok that sounds a bit like a look forward TV show from the fifties but there are possibilities.

As an engineer you must be able to see that any waste is wrong, most engineers strive to get as much as possible from everything they create. Now if the system worked on a large scale, and I must stress that it is still within a learning institution at present, then the renewing of the road network would become self funding over a short period of time.

Now if we have come at this at cross purposes which seems most likely, then I am sure that we can agree to disagree rather than continue to cross swords through the medium of a forum.

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12/23/2008 1:44 PM

Lastoneleft,

I was not crossing swords, just suggesting YOU prove it out before we cry to government to wipe our...rear end. I was hinting that there MAY be some serious risks to the viability of the technology or general direction you suggest. Waste not, want not, yes, but waste is a relative thing. If you can fly...why build roads...which will beg the question of whether government should build roads anymore...in 10-20 years, but not now...

When God created this earth (run with me here you atheists...for now, ok) he did not include roads. Why? If you were God, you would forget roads, and fly. If you were captain Kirk from a space ship, you would fly and NOT build roads. A road is old technology. A car is dependent on a road for success. A flying "thing" is not.

In the USA, taxes are per gallon. Typically there is a Federal and State portion. Where I live it is $0.42/gallon. That money, however, is not spent on roads only, but is diverted to the general fund to pay off "friends" of Congressmen with "connection" to the gov well. It is like the social security "trust" fund, or Gore's "lock box" bull... Spending is political, not merit based.

My point of funding was that government funding is ok for roads because it is a wide ownership. If everybody owned a train, I would advocate gov funding of train tracks. When a lot of people use a system, monopoly is good because of the extortion of a private owner is a high potential, but what we have now is the government becoming the thug and wanting to control us all. So far roads have remained open...but wait until we all can fly...and don't need roads or interstates...or don't care about it, or refuse to pay the tax in our flying machines. From my view, we have built all the "runways" we need.

So, tell us more about the system you advocate... It sounds like it might be good for at least snow removal...

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12/23/2008 12:30 PM

What we really need is a new power plant technology.

Cars didn't advance until a power plant was developed that could power one.

Aircraft didn't advance until a power plant with sufficient power-to-weight ratio was developed.

Jet aircraft, same thing

Space craft, same thing.

Now, we need the technology to make the leap from internal combustion to X.

Given that, we shall be like birds or insects, when a billion people take to the air in sufficiently powered air craft. We will also need advanced guidance systems for navigation and collision avoidance.

Roads and bridges may still be required for freight, but then again.. if you can fly, do you really want to burden yourself with all that freight. If you live on a mountain top.. rails, roads and bridges are not economical anyway. The technology is dependent on the needs of the paradigm. It will take care of itself.

We really need a new power plant, based on a clean fuel, that has an extreme power to weight ratio. after that, the other pieces will fall into place.

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12/23/2008 1:52 PM

Chris,

I'm working on it... Extreme power ratio for VTOL/STOL.

You are right, a new engine is needed and the old piston crank ain't going to cut it...

The navigation technology is there with some programing changes. Virtual VFR...

Air cargo with no pilots is possible with air and GPS...

I think it can be competitive with trucks due to the lack of a pilot in the airplane. 20 airplanes doing 2000 lb cargo each equals one truck. Point to point, high speed (140+ mph).

Passengers could also be done this way... no pilot in small craft...

Air is where it is going!

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01/02/2009 11:12 PM

I agree. The old crank piston engine is not not going to cut it. That is the reason why I designed a new power plant , consisting of 3 synchronizing gears for compressor,the same for combustion rotor. That's all . Fuel? any,except modification for diesel. Estimated RPM 35 to 40,000. Ignition ? no problem.

Design on paper, needs to be patent.

Interested ?

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01/03/2009 12:58 PM

Guest,

Sure, tell me more.

What cycle(s) is used?

Just click on my name next to my post and write a private message if you like.

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01/04/2009 6:06 PM

Clicking on your name gives me your profile but can't write a private response.

A year ago I was writing in this forum about a rotary engine that needs a ignition system to handle the high RPM. Mfg's and tinkerers couldn't tell me because nothing runs that fast ,therefor you don't need it . Well, it will run that fast and fire. Air compression can be varied depending on existing condition. Volume of direct fuel injection depends on air pressure. Combustion force is directly transmitted to output shaft , but not like the " Wankel " engine or any other with spring loaded finger and complicated combustion chamber configuration(s).Because of the high rpm and amount of combustion per one revolution , this engine is smaller and lighter than my Ford Expl. V6, no crank case, connecting rods,rocker arms ,springs, Valve-stems,etc.Is that something you be intereste in?

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01/08/2009 5:19 PM

I am interested in efficient engines. It must be at least 60% efficient from 1 hp-100 hp and can drop in efficiency from 100-400 hp to better than 25%. It has to have the potential for energy recovery (such as brake recovery), and have very high short duration power (400 hp). Continuous power of say 100 hp with a 30 second 400 hp would be great. Total weight is 1 hp/lb for continuous and 4 hp/lb peak. A certain type of hybrid hydraulic engine might be able to do such a thing...electrics...not likely.

It must run on liquid fuel so that I can get a 2500 mile range in my seaplane to tour the south pacific...and then run on hydrogen/CNG to get cheap power when range is not critical.

I am interested if you can do that...

Seaplaneguy

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