Farming pressure

Hi all,

Do the people who are talking about this think, 'pressure' of any kind is going to persuade anyone in the EU or UK to actually ask for GM product over 'natural' ones?

The problem is the pressure is such that the GM product is used in all kinds of preprepared foods. I saw them growing this in the UK with conventional crops alongside...........Who tells the pollinators they are only allowed to work on the GM crops today? Who controls the wind to only blow in a circle around the GM fields? Who or what stops all kinds of animals including insects, birds and rodents, but to name a few, that they should not trespass into the GM fields?

What should have been done to test this GM stuff, as to start it is just another 'food' which must be tested, is that it should have been planted on islands away from the mainland. They can say what they like to promote and 'defend' GM, the fact is, even what is supposed to be GM soy etc, is not 100%. Because there must have been contamination between the good and 'bad' crops whilst they were growing, and or from the vehicles and other methods used to harvest and prepare it.

The same can be said of different kinds of irradiated fruit etc. They do this to make it last longer. Perhaps they should go back to the start and accept some fruit and other stuff is only available in and around certain times of the year from particular countries?.............Excuse my 'French', but buy bothering to type this now I feel I am pis-ing into the wind. It makes me so angry. When it comes down to it the everyday man and woman has zero say in what does and what does not happen in the long term. Whatever, this stuff slowly filters into the shops and into the seminal ways of living and in 30 years time, someone will say, "there, I told you this was not a danger"! Maybe we will have to wait several hundred years to see the truth?

Me 'old fashioned'..........YOU BET!!!!!

At the bottom of this post you will see Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes." <> Ralph Waldo Emerson. ...................................................The 'powers that be' should listen a little more to the 'working man' and less to the multi millionaires who have these crazy ideas and invest in them!

Just don't get me going because this this unnatural food should never have even got past the thought stage!

The people will not have a choice over GM or natural because the agricultural business is washing it over. Agriculture businesses like to push the image of the family farm raising our food. The truth is that it is big business. And even the family farm is in it for the money.

If your interested, have a look at the history and developments of soy. Then look at the health issues involved with soy. Then look at the current day soy crops. You will find yourself asking why (a product that was once only approved as a machine oil, causes serious health issues and is engineered to be resistant to the strongest herbicides) is considered a health food? The answer is marketing and a billion dollar agricultural lobby group.

In Ontario there was an issue with the cross pollination of corn. It made the corn inedible. The only reason anyone found out about the engineered corn was because people got sick.

Engineered food products are in everything. And the farmers are not being forced into it. They are leading the way.

Hello gdevine,

it seems we three are all reading from the same book here!

I am in total agreemnt with you and europium.

Take care.....................

The law is an ASSSSSSS!!!

It's all back to front. The farms who's crops are contaminated by GM should be able to challenge the GM source for corrupting their non-GM crop, but so far all the suits seem to have been from the GM side claiming the neighbouring farmers have "stolen" the GM copyrite material.

If someone dumped their GM pollen into my organic crop, then why am I at fault? (That's the way the law seems to see it at present.)

Just wait until they develop a GM grain crop with "Left handed" DNA chain. Looks and tastes like wheat/corn/barley/rice, but because of the inverted DNA chain has ZERO ability to be digested and absorbed. Would be sold as the "ideal" diet material, (could be used to make zero calorie bread, biscuits, buns, cakes) but if this contaminated the world's food sources, then we'd all starve to death from "nutrition free" grain.

This is one of my greatest fears of where GM will go.

I could rant about conventional farms that tried to make claims on Monsant0 because the herbicides didn't work. Mons then collected those plants to use in their GM material development, but insisted for years that no plant is immune to the herbicide and the farmers must have mixed it wrong.

Why has the world suddenly become "sensitive" to peanut products? Is it because of the revised growing techniques used? Herbicide saturation to eliminate all other weeds in the crops, claims of "no residue", but in my lifetime it's moved from anyone could eat peanuts to a situation where children are banned from taking peanut butter sandwiches to school for fear that some other child will die from breathing the smell of peanuts. Has mankind "evolved" that much in 30 years or are the peanuts different?

Hello Just an Engineer:

I can't but help of thinking of 'Soilent Farm' was it. I am going to look silly now cos I forgot the film as well............It just brings to mind how secretive and underhand the farming industry world wide has become. I spent some time in France..........Still can't speak the language past "der tranche ci Vue plait??? Can't spell English let alone French! I went to a very country area. Had to drive for 20 miles 32 km to the nearest supermache. And in this village everyone had about 5/7 hectares 12.5/17.5 acres. It was enough to grow for their personal food needs and each had some cows or some sheep. I can't see it happening here or in the States but, makes you wonder if any new development should not give 5 acres or so for people to grow their own food. Would spread the wealth a little fairer, and there would not be near as much imports where the middle to end man who makes the profit?

Take care.........................

"Just wait until they develop a GM grain crop with "Left handed" DNA chain. Looks and tastes like wheat/corn/barley/rice, but because of the inverted DNA chain has ZERO ability to be digested and absorbed."

If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened in Ontario. GM corn for industrial use crossed with cereal corn and the result was an indigestible product. It made some people sick.

So I hate to tell you but your fears are real and happening now......