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Biggest Educational Need: in the Middle

Posted February 24, 2009 8:27 AM

Businesses contribute a lot of money to educational institutions, but are they sending their money to the right places? Some say too many of our programs are directed at the "edges," that is, to low achievers at the secondary school level and to high achievers in Bachelor degree programs. These exclude the average achiever, the intermediate workers where a majority of the job skills are needed. Why isn't business putting its education money where it's really needed?

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02/25/2009 12:28 AM

well i dont know where to start. after having just sold my business of 36 years i have found that what we need to teach is attitude. i know that everyone is not a genius, like me, ha ha. but a school system needs to teach that all of us are part of an "economy". i try to expain it to people by saying that, in the begining eveyone went out and caught rabbits and picked fruit. after a while some poeple realized that not everyone was as good as others at those efforts. so trade began. you know," hey i will give you 2 rabbits for a bushel of wheat." then it progressed to where if a guy did not need any wheat this week he would trade for some of those golden nuggets that were so hard to find in the creek that watered the wheat fields and that the rabbits drank from. so started our monetary system. centuries past and look at the system that has evolved to support us! i like to think that everything that we do is to help make good food easy to get. well what about the gold nuggets that are left over? well thats just spare food.......money is just spare food........i guess thats a little off the subject but i think we need to explain to students that you need to find your spot in society(the economy) to help the system that i have just described. but what about the money thats spent on education? after having hired probably 200 people in a 5 to 10 person operation i have found that the biggest problem i have faced and caused my down fall is the attitude of the people that i have hired. some come begging for work, "i will do anything for you", "i will grow you business like you wont believe", i will work so hard for you and run the place and some day i will buy it from you", usually to find that they become jealous, dishonest, digruntled, thinking that you dont pay enough etc.....having not been in the owners shoes they feel that i have betrayed them. they dont know the daily hell that an owner goes though. many have come back "having seen the light" but it is too late, they have been replaced and after seeing the damage they have done, i am not about to hire them back. giving more money to the schools is not the answer. having the schools teach what is to be part of what makes the business world go around. an attitude of helping the business, "the economy", and finding your personal spot in the grand scheme of things, while not destroying someone else in your hunt, is what needs to be taught. i dont know how much money needs to be thrown at that.........

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02/25/2009 8:53 AM

You could start by registering. I hate to give a good answer to "Guests".

As far as your experience with hiring, I've "been there, done that". Attitude over targeted training is much more important. I'll train a reasonable person to do what "I" think is necessary for the success of my customers and my business.

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02/25/2009 4:22 PM

Guest, your post started off quite well but towards the end it appeared to be just a rant from a bitter ex employer - no offence intended.

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02/25/2009 12:17 PM

big ego and arrogance. too common. teamwork. not enough.

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02/25/2009 9:09 PM

wow, the same problem is met in our China. we also have many such discusses.

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02/26/2009 9:33 PM

See, people are the same. No matter where you are from. We have the same problems, the same desires, the same needs. And have to survive the same bad apples.

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08/27/2009 2:09 PM

Some say too many of our programs are directed at the "edges," that is, to low achievers at the secondary school level

I believe this statement is very true. I would also like to emphasize; The purpose of a school education, at any level , is to teach the student how to think. If he knows how to think, the rest is easy.

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