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Scientists Discover Pentagonal Ice

Posted April 07, 2009 9:14 AM

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Scientists at the University of Liverpool have discovered a five-sided ice chain structure that could be used to modify future weather patterns. Researchers, in collaboration with University College London and the Fritz-Haber Institut in Berlin, created the first moments of water condensing on matter - a process vital for the formation of clouds in the atmosphere - by analysing how the two interact on a flat copper surface. Ice has rarely been viewed at the nanoscale before and the team discovered a one-dimensional chain structure built from pentagon-shaped rings, rather than the more commonly seen hexagonal structures of ice formations like those seen in snowflakes. This discovery could lead to scientists developing new materials for seeding clouds and causing rain. Cloud seeding is a form of weather modification, where the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds is altered by dispersing substances into the air which modify cloud particles. This process can increase amounts of rain and snow but can also be used to suppress hail and fog. The substances currently used to seed clouds are chosen to bind to hexagonal ice, but this work suggests that the process could work equally well with materials which bind to other structures. Professor Andrew Hodgson, from the University's Surface Science Research Centre, said: "Water is a ubiquitous material that is central to many biological and chemical reactions, but its influence is often indirect and difficult to understand. Water usually takes on hexagonal arrangements, like those seen in snowflakes, yet this research has shown that the intricate, nanoscale structure of ice can actually be built from one-dimensional pentagons. "Ice crystals form against flat, solid surfaces and watching the microscopic process take place on copper has provided detailed information on how ice forms at interfaces. The research will help to improve our understanding of how ice patterns form and how water is structured at metal interfaces.

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04/07/2009 11:14 AM

"A chicken and an egg are laying down in bed. The egg is angrily muttering to itself, while the chicken is contentedly smoking a cigarette. The chicken leans over and says to the egg, "Well, I guess that answers THAT question..." "

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04/08/2009 2:49 AM

Dammit Boy! You stole my thunder.

Anyway I think we should let the Innuit name this stuff. Last I heard they were up to ice XXVI.

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04/08/2009 12:18 AM

"Scientists at the University of Liverpool have discovered a five-sided ice chain structure that could be used to modify future weather patterns...from one-dimensional pentagons"

Don't tell Roger Pink about this. He already thinks the pentagon is to blame for global warming.

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04/08/2009 9:40 AM

Lawdys...! "Ice crystals form against flat, solid surfaces ... watching the microscopic process take place on copper has provided detailed information on how ice forms at interfaces ... With a better understanding of how ice crystals form in the upper atmosphere, new and cheaper materials could now be developed that could be used across the globe to seed clouds and modify weather patterns."

Man-trying-to-play-God again. "Yes" ... let's finance someone's efforts to dump tons of pulverized, microscopic metallic/metalloid particles into our atmosphere, just to prove that THEY can control (or, just slightly alter) an impending storm or drought.

Who-the-heck cares what melodramatic effect that might exert on subsequent generations of birds, fish, frogs, or other such critters that simply get themselves in-the-way of progress? Surely we will (eventually) recognize any such adverse effects, and be able to come up with a plan to reverse any damage done ... and surely we'll be able to AFFORD to take the necessary steps. We'll borrow from our children's children if necessary!

It's science , dammit! It MUST be done! [vent ... sigh...]

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