The Way To Be Never Give Up!

Goals

A well developed plan

Hungry Kids

A nagging wife

Personal discipline

Study Groups

Academic Advisors

A Determination to never give up

Keep it fun, Love learning.

Never give up!

What is the question indicating? A tremble? A doubt?

Just never give up or become and artist, politician, scientist or just become yourself.

Else

Fact is you never stop learning. Nor should you. Keep it up.

just maintain your focus on how long it will take to pay off your student loans

Just remember that failure is not an option...

So give up, as your post appears that you have doubts as to this being what you want to spend your life doing.

Change majors, as engineering is not your passion.

Redfred, excellent advice! GA for you! Thanks for sharing.

Solar, Great advice! GA for you!

Get a box and go live on the streets for awhile. See what you may have to look forward to if you do give up.

Old Salt,

Excellent advice! Even as professionals, we need to be well rounded and have the ability to step back at times. GA for you!

Depends on the student, there is no single right answer to this question. You either find motivation or you have motivation.

Is the student you? What happed to your goal to get a Masters Degree in computer science, do you now want to be an Engineer instead?

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/100702

I would post a Yoda quote but I am not sure you would understand it.

What do YOU want, lets start there and this forum can all decide how best you can achieve it?

I disagree. This forum can not decide anything for anyone. We can provide guidance to those that want to be guided. I am not even inclined to make decisions for anyone here nor would most of us not allow it to happen.
Simply put: everyone and Mr Z included needs to make their own decisions.

Would it have helped if I had posted at the end of my previous post to indicate my frustration at the question from this particular OP.

Believe me I am as frustrated as you but also amused. Mr. Z is just trying to find a tune.

If nothing rings he will go away.

The way to be never give up is not to let it be over. "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Heck no! When the going gets tough, the tough get going"

*Blutarsky

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

I need to check the news again did they just do it this morning?

(Pearl Harbour was actually bombed by the Japanese in WWII).

When the going gets tough, the tough get going

Nice motivation, the Germans lost by the way and had pretty much lost the war by this point in history and took a lot of people with them. Sort of like some of our other CR4 threads I suppose (lost causes, etc).

Sigh, I guess you didn't see the future Senator Blutarsky's famous speech.

Another Senator Blutarsky classic:

"Seven years of college down the drain!"

Haha! I love it!

No, it was over when the Japanese bombed Berlin and Stuttgart with "Little Boy" and "Fat Man".

Good Luck, Old Salt

Swarmy,

Very motivating and so true! GA for you!

you should have hunger for engineer

Yes, they taste delicious with a bit of hot sauce.

Jokes apart. There is tremendous pressure on the engineering students. May be to-day syllabus is very hard or lot of subjects to study. Recently a student in final year at IIT Mumbai got fed up with his performance at exams that he committed suicide in the campus. IIT has student counselling dept, but it did work for this boy. There many such cases in schools here too.

Committing suicide because of exam performance seems pretty stupid to me. I guess you could say that guy gave up...too bad.

I don't mind stupid people killing themselves, I just wish they would do it somewhere where no one has to see it or clean up their mess. They should at least be considerate enough to go in the woods or something.

Interest in what you are doing. If you enjoy your job it is not work.

lyn's missing in this post

Zakaria,

K.I.S.S.

First, do what you love.

Second, Love what you do.

Third, until you are dead, your life is being written and rewritten. Sometimes you hold the pen, sometimes you don't.

Fourth, There are few wrong answers to the question "Why am I here?"

Strive for As and Bs, but never forget the old adage... Cs get degrees.

Some of the most competent engineers I have known were average students. An A in thermodynamics is fine, but it doesn't guarantee future success in your chosen field. One of the most worthless engineers I have ever worked with supposedly graduated with a 3.9 GPA in engineering from a very prestigious university. She was apparently good at taking exams, but not much else.

Get the degree and find a job. From that day forward, nobody will care about your grades in college. They will care about whether you are completing your work on time and using good judgment day-in and day-out.

Most of the time in life we ask the wrong questions. Rather than asking "why" we should do something we ask "how or what". The "WHY" is the most important part. If we don't know what it is that we want to accomplish we won't have a good reason to endure when things get tough, and they will. Having tough times is a given part of life.

Define>Learn>Do. Define what you want in life, i.e. lifestyle, vacation time, business ownership or employee, family, based upon skills and interests, etc. As Stephen Covey said, "begin with the end in mind." Next, Learn from someone who has those results. Finally, Do what they do or did to accomplish the Define part. Too often we Do whatever is available, Learn on the job and that Defines our lifestyle.

As someone else Posted; staying hungry to learn is a prerequisite to whatever we do in life. We don't live in a static environment and we need to be learning and growing on a daily basis. As Ray Kroc said, "are you green and growing or ripe and rotting?"

Good Answer!

A few years ago, I took a tour of our local charter school. One of the first things that impressed me is that the Seven Habits are on the walls (in vinyl letters). The rest of the culture of the school follows, with famous quotes (not Belushi's) on each classroom door. Add to this the philosophy of teaching and I was sold on the school. So much so, that I gladly accepted their nomination to be on the Governing Board.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice!

Exactly the same way to be the worlds best ditch digger. Motivation. Commitment. Desire. Careful planning. Implementation. Goal oriented.

Ready, Fire, Aim

Great advice! GA for you! What do they say? When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

Maybe the student isn't ready yet, but it surely doesn't mean that he never will be.

Well said, good advice to young potential engineer who just lost his path.

For engineering, keep fresh coffee handy.

For classical physics, keep beer handy
For relativistic physics, keep wine handy
For quantum physics, keep whiskey handy
For cosmology, keep pot handy
For theology, keep LSD handy
Beyond that, keep meth handy.

[cribbed, with addenda, from W.C. Fields]

Any engineering student reading these posts, will definitely be a good engineer.

Gajanan Phadte