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Testing a Viscous Coupling

05/21/2015 9:35 AM

Firstly apologies, I'm not an engineer! I am a member of a LR Vehicle forum and there is debate about how to test the Viscous Coupling Unit (VCU) on Freelander cars. The VCU splits the prop shaft that runs from the front to back axle. It allows slippage when front and back axles turn at slow differences (eg cornering) but stiffens up when the front wheels lose grip, to then drive the rear.

Over use and/or time, the VCUs 'tighten up' - ie they do not allow sufficient slippage at slower speeds. This causes 'wind up' in the transmission that results in front or rear differential failure (the front diff has a 1:1 drive to the prop shaft).

We therefore want a way of testing the VCU to ensure it has not tightened to much and is operating in a range that is not causing damage to the transmission during normal driving.

The 'purists' say that you must remove the VCU from the car and props to a workbench, lock one side of it so that it will not turn, put a bar of know length (eg 1m) on the other end with a known weight (eg 5kg) at the other end and time how long it takes to fall (say from 45 degrees to horizontal). This involves a lot of time and effort removing and refixing the VCU to the car - so is unlikely to be performed regularly.

The alternate method is to jack 1 rear wheel, remove the wheel, fit a 32mm socket over the hub nut, fix a bar of known length to the socket, on the other end put a known weight and time how long it takes to fall. This is a lot quicker and easier to perform. The purists say this is not accurate enough as there are to many influences other than the VCU. There will be a hub, driveshaft, wheel bearing, 2 CV joints on the driveshaft, 2 UJs on the propshaft and a differential (3.2:1 ratio) - the brake would need to be known to not bind and the joints etc be in reasonable condition. We term this the "1 wheel up test".

As "proper engineers" do you think the 1 wheel up test is something that we could use on to give us an indication that the VCU is in reasonable condition? eg if tests on cars with known good VCUs are taking between 20 to 30 seconds and another car takes 45 seconds then the VCU should be replaced. How much more reliable is the purist's test than the 1 wheel up test? Presumably the 3,2:1 ratio in the diff would alter the timings considerably to a workbench test, but should not impede this as a method of testing.

Many thanks for taking the time to read!

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Re: Testing a Viscous Coupling

05/25/2015 1:38 AM

Grumpy - expanding on your idea of checking wear in the IRD bearings have a look at this article. I am not very knowledgeable about this technique - others on here will be, but I am sure this could be adapted fairly easily to construct some form of IRD bearing monitor, which could be checked with a vibration phone app.

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05/25/2015 4:50 AM

It would help if I could link the article :o

http://www.academia.edu/5873884/MICROCONTROLLER_BASED_NON_INVASIVE_WIRELESS_SENSOR_NETWORK_TO_MONITOR_HEALTH_OF_DIESEL_GENERATOR_DG_SETS

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05/25/2015 7:02 AM

lol, I did wonder if I'd missed something. There's a lot to read there, won't be able to get through it today - but I will read it at some time. I've never built electrical circuits, but I'm a programmer by trade.

My current 'project' is a 109 SSW and I've ripped the wiring loom out and am replacing it with a network of Arduino micro processors (eg 1 micro processor in the dash connected to switches and another in the engine bay connected to relays for lights). However, in the tradition of not finishing 1 project before you get the next, I've got my eye on this Freelander. It would give me a 4WD setup to put some monitoring on - such as the suggested remote temp sensors pointed at IRD bearings & VCU - but rather than making circuits (which I don't understand) I'm sure there are components for Arduino micro processors that can be purchased. Hopefully there is an equivalent of the PIC suggestion from an earlier post. Plus, I can also learn how to change head gaskets :)

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05/26/2015 7:42 AM

Have a look at this, Grumpy, as a simple Vibration monitoring system.

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/pressroom/recipe4.html?CID=vibrationsensor

Calibration would be a pain, but a starting point???

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05/26/2015 8:02 AM

Jeepers, could end up with a Freelander with more monitoring wires than a patient in ICU!

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05/25/2015 5:47 AM

From MadSci Network;

The phenomenon you are asking about is called dilatent rheology [the harder you stir, the thicker it gets] A cornstarch/water slurry is not a solution, but a suspension [or dispersion, if you prefer] of a solid in a liquid. At a certain ratio of cornstarch to water, the critical PVC is approached. PVC is an abbreviation for "Pigment Volume Concentration", a term widely used in the paint industry, and meaning simply the ratio of pigment {starch} in the total volume. Exactly at the CPVC, there are no voids [the starch particles are in contact with each other and the water fills the interstitial space]. At this point, it cannot be said if you have a 'solid' or a 'liquid' the application of pressure [motion, stress, stirring] perturbs that and the flow characteristics change -- the water is 'squeezed out' [into adjacent areas] leaving the starch behind as a damp solid. This is the same phenomenon that you see when walking along wet sand at the beach: your footsteps look dry behind you, even though they were made in wet sand. Other than simple water solutions, most systems exhibit thixotropic behavior. There is little commercial appeal for dilatent ones. Send me a note if you'ld like more info and refs Ken Johnsen @ MSN
No mention of heat. Just particles in suspension that are very close to each other. When these fluids are placed under stress they act like a solid as the particles have no time to move out of the way. It is noteworthy that this Chemist thinks there is little commercial appeal for dilatent fluids.

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05/26/2015 7:28 AM

To return to the OPs question.......

As the failure of the VCU can lead to catastrophic failure of the rest of the drive train....

Is the "wheel up" test considered a suitable, easily carried out, test to check for progressive failure of the VCU, specifically the "thickening" or "loosening" of the contents, such that some form of qualified decision can be taken to replace the offending article prior to a very expensive result - in some cases complete destruction of the IRD and rear diff?

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05/26/2015 9:17 AM

IMHO- yes it will provide the info needed, if you have a suitable baseline to compare to and are confident there are no other drivetrain issues on that particular vehicle that could affect it. Quite simply, you've just got more variables than if you take it out and test it on a bench!

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Re: Testing a Viscous Coupling

05/26/2015 2:43 PM

Interesting video of a Honda vcu rebuild - he states quite clearly that there should be NO air gap....

It also looks like spare parts are available for them.

Also found this on Choosing the silicone oil although it is, again described as "oil". It also seems that different peeps use differing viscosities.

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