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RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Service)

07/19/2015 7:32 AM

There is nuisance tripping (RCCB TRIPS) occur in our landscape lighting circuits. Existing RCCB is 40 amps 100ma which connected to dimmer panel(3phase). Inside the dimmer there are 12 circuits which is connected to LED lights through 10A individual breaker and each breaker have load of 10 to 15 lights. RCCB trips only, when we switch on all together by dimmer keypad. If we switch on individual breaker there is no tripping.

Alo please be informed that landscape is very wet and cable (weather proof cable) directly laid on soil. So kindly advice which type of solution will be better to solve the same.

1. Replacing 100mA RCCB with 300mA RCCB

2. Splitting the load from one RCCB to 4 RCCBs (Each RCCB with 3 Circuits)

3. Replacing RCCB with an ELR + CBCT

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Re: RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Serves)

07/19/2015 11:08 AM

Do an insulation test on cables outgoing from RCCB

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Re: RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Serves)

07/19/2015 1:00 PM

"10 to 15 lights" or 10 to 15 strings of lights.

Have you measured amp draw of each circuit? Total load?

What have you done, so far?

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Re: RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Serves)

07/19/2015 2:27 PM

From the information presented, there would appear to be a problem with the dimmer. Rectify it before re-energising.

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07/19/2015 2:42 PM

Use an extermination service to get rid of the gophers.

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Re: RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Service)

07/19/2015 11:47 PM

Most of the LED fixtures have AC tyo DC conversion circuits with an electrolytic capacitor. All capacitors act as short circuit until it gets fully charged. Time cosntant depends on the circuit. Hence if all circuits are to be switched on simultaneously, the intial charging current will be high and may be the cause for your RCCB tripping. Reducing number of LED fixtures per RCCB will certainly help. You could also buy slower response RCCBs- which can withstand short time surges.

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07/21/2015 10:52 AM

Your problem looks very much like due to turn on surge, as XYZ has pointed. It does not look like it has anything to do with earth leakage , so your solution 1 & 3 are out. Solution 2 may work as it reduces the turn on surge.

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Re: RCCB - Nuisance Tripping - Lighting Circuits (Wet Area Service)

07/22/2015 3:14 AM

Thanks for your comments. I insisted our people to replace the RCCB by ECR with CBCT. I will update you the same once it done.

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07/22/2015 3:18 AM

Please also update us on the gophers.

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07/25/2015 4:53 AM

CBCT+ELR is RCCB. Solution-2 reduces the no. of lights in each circuit and thus the inrush current when switched-on.

100mA RCCB is important for human safety and any attempt to increase the leakage current rating or add a delay will make the system unsafe and you are risking electrocution.

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