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Can a Motor Have 7 Poles?

08/27/2015 4:10 PM

Is there any motor exists all over the world that has 7 poles? If no, then why not?Is there any way to build?

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Re: Can a motor have 7 poles?

08/27/2015 4:14 PM

Research the term "magnetic monopole". Then think about the the integer "7".

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Re: Can a Motor Have 7 Poles?

08/27/2015 4:37 PM

No, it has to be an even number. You can't have a north pole without a south or a south pole without a north. There's no such thing as half a magnet!

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08/27/2015 4:47 PM

sevenpolemotor

Here's a 3-pole design:

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08/27/2015 9:00 PM

Funny, I count eight poles.

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08/27/2015 10:36 PM

The arrangement shown looks like it would produce four poles....though not evenly spaced.

Imagining field lines, it seems very likely that a meaningful portion of those lines will make the complete loop between the poles that exhibit the same outward polarity..... in the illustration, the electromagnets at 9:30 and 1:30 (o'clock) will have some field lines that connect blue and red via a path centered around 11:30...making it effectively a pole aligned red out at 11:30.

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08/27/2015 4:55 PM

If you google 7 pole motor . . . you'll find what you're looking for.

You can even buy them.

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08/27/2015 5:04 PM

This is from WEG in Poland, still only six.

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08/27/2015 5:18 PM

sure you can! it wont spin but you go ahead and build it, you sound like a smart guy

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08/27/2015 6:12 PM

Yes there are odd numbered pole motors just as there are odd pole numbered alternators.

For years Ford vehicles had alternators with 12 rotor poles but 11 stator poles.

The principle also works in reverse for special application motors as well.

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08/27/2015 6:26 PM
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08/27/2015 10:20 PM

Certainly there can be motors with 7 poles, though these are not common.

The most straight forward would be a linear motor.

There are also likely examples of a different sort in the vicinity of Warsaw.

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08/27/2015 11:18 PM

It's more of a naming convention problem. It gets its name because the stator has an odd number of slots, which are mistakenly referred to as poles, with the winding distributed across the slots; while the rotor has an even number of poles to keep it magnetically balanced.

Winding a motor like that reduces/eliminates a problem known as cogging that occurs at slow and/or subsynchronous speeds, depending upon the type of motor and its usage.

If a motor has an equal number of slots then the poles of the rotor will naturally align themselves with the path of least reluctance; i.e., the metal between the slots, and if there's not enough inertia to overcome the magnetic attraction, then the rotor stalls or jumps to the next metal between slots (referred to as poles).

With an assymetric (odd number of stator slots/poles, even number of rotor poles) design there is no significantly larger hunk of metal for the rotor poles to align with, resulting in a much smoother transition of reluctance and consequently very little cogging at light to no-load conditions.

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08/28/2015 4:16 AM

I thought that cogging in motors where it might be a problem was usually handled by an odd number of rotor "poles" and/or rotor slot angled to the direction of rotation. i.e. not 90° as usual.....

Also, the OP never mentioned why he needed 7 poles in the first place!!!

Maybe 14 poles would also do it (assuming that 14 poles are available on the open market, I don't have a clue either way!)

Thanks for your reply.

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08/28/2015 8:11 PM

Just to be a smart ass, any motor with 8 or more poles by definition ALSO means it has 7 poles...

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08/30/2015 5:01 AM

So does that make a smart ass (or even a middling donkey) twice the biped a typical human is?

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08/31/2015 4:41 PM

Yes. Romford produced a 7-pole motor as a drop-in replacement for the Tri-ang X04 motor. They aren't made any more, as the pulse-width-modulating controllers made anything with more than 5 poles wasteful but you can get them occasionally on eBay. I'd expect to pay £15-20 each, plus postage.

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09/25/2015 1:06 AM

7 is not a lucky number. That why we only have , 2 pole and 4 pole motor only.

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Re: Can a Motor Have 7 Poles?

11/04/2015 1:44 AM

Poles will be in pairs only. You cannot built 7 poles motor because a motor should have rotating magnetic field which is possible only with the help of pair of poles only. Hence it is not possible to build 7 poles motor.

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