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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 8:12 AM
	I saw a pick today of a sickly thin polar bear on my face book feed. of course the story suggested a strong link to 57 Chevy's destroying the planet at breakneck speed,no surprise there.the story did however contain links to other stories I found interesting. a story from this past Spring from Nasa was especially interesting.http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/ as usual for me I put far more stock into sat data than some "experts opinion". why the media doesn't pound the table when data like this is gathered from our pals at NASA is up to interpretation. I'll just trust the sat data, it all adds up to scommon sense to me
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#17 "Re: NASA Sat Data" by Usbport on 09/14/2015 6:31 PM (score 2)

Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#1 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 8:56 AM
	oh AL, perhaps you'd care to rethink that doomsday baloney
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SolarEagle Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: by the beach in Florida Posts: 33392 Good Answers: 1817	#2 In reply to #1 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 10:26 AM
	Don't get cocky, it might be the beginning of a new ice age! __________________ All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#4 In reply to #2 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 12:16 PM
	I just looked at the NASA up to date datahttp://neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov/csb/index.php?section=234 its ,mostly just data, the Forbes was filled with opinion of course. I'm not sure why the poles vary so much. the Arctic seems to be more in flux while the southern pole seems to be growing in "sea ice" this shouldn't be confused with ice found on land....2 different topics A satellite-based data record starting in late 1978 shows that indeed rapid changes have been occurring in the Arctic, where the perennial ice cover has been declining at the rate of about 13% per decade and the ice cover as a whole has been declining at the lesser rate of about 5% per decade. In the Antarctic, the trend is opposite to that in the Arctic, with the sea ice cover increasing at about 1 to 2 % per decade. This is despite unusual warming in the Antarctic Peninsula region and declines in the sea ice cover in the Amundsen/Bellingshausen Seas of about 6% per decade. In the Arctic, a slight recovery in the sea ice cover has been observed in 2008 and 2009, following a major decline of the ice in 2007, while in the Antarctic, the sea ice cover was more extensive than normal in 2007, 2008, and 2009.
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SolarEagle Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: by the beach in Florida Posts: 33392 Good Answers: 1817	#7 In reply to #4 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 1:38 PM
	This could have something to do with the magnetic pole destabilization period we are in.... http://www.iceagenow.com/Archived_Articles.htm __________________ All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
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Rixter Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: About 4000 miles from the center of the earth (+/-100 mi) Posts: 9910 Good Answers: 1141	#5 In reply to #1 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 12:30 PM
	Politicians have to have some threat to save us from and justify their existence.
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#6 In reply to #5 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 12:43 PM
	thats always been true. but I have to admit I'm a bit stumped on the Arctic, I don't have all the variables but it sure seems more prone to swings where as the Antarctic seems much more stable
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lyn Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42355 Good Answers: 1693	#9 In reply to #6 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 3:07 PM
	Well, any fool knows that the Antarctica is at the South Pole, where the sun never shines. And Antarctica is 9,000 feet of ice sitting on a continent. Arctic ice is floating on the ocean.
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lyn Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42355 Good Answers: 1693	#3 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 10:59 AM
	OK, kramarat, Here's the first six hits that came from the search "polar ice caps shrinking or growing?" Is Earth's Ice Growing or Shrinking? - AccuWeather Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any ... Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis \| Sea ice data updated daily Polar Ice Fact Sheet : Feature Articles This is climate skeptics' latest argument about melting polar ... Is Antarctica losing or gaining ice? - Skeptical Science This says that 5:1 your Forbes piece is BS. Your serve.
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Crabtree Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Commissariat de Police, Nouvions, occupied France, 1942. Posts: 2599 Good Answers: 77	#8 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 1:52 PM
	Two points on a line do not constitute a valid reason for extrapolation, in my book, Mildred. __________________ Good moaning!
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tcmtech Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South of Minot North Dakota Posts: 8376 Good Answers: 775	#10 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 4:50 PM
	My personal favorites are the reports of where ice sheets have melted back to where they were thousands of years ago revielding items lost/left behind less than a hundred years ago during wars and or exploration expeditions. Then there are the rising sea levels that as of yet I have not heard of anyone who lives or has worked by any old sea side docks being able to visually confirm a single inch's worth of change in their lifetime or their parents/grandparents life times either. Lastly there are the millions of us like myself who's only noticeable climatic changes they have seen first hand or have had first hand accounts from previous and still alive generations are ones that have shown themselves to be marional to vastly improved ones over what was in the past. Yea I know. Accurate timelines don't count, first hand measurements don't count and climatic improvements for millions of people all over the world don't count either.
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lyn Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42355 Good Answers: 1693	#11 In reply to #10 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 5:17 PM
	You, and many of the other climate deniers, are suffering from an acute case of "cranial rectalitis". Sea Level Rise \| Weather Underground What is happening to sea levels? - Global Warming Solved Sea level rise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia NASA notes sea level is falling in press release - but calls it a The Secret of Sea Level Rise: It Will Vary Greatly By Region ... Sea-level rise in Bangladesh and the Netherlands C3: ? Are Oceans Rising Bjorn Lomborg Is Wrong About Bangladesh And Sea Level ... sea level rise \| robertscribbler Don't confuse "man-made" global warming with the facts. I don't have a dog in this fight but, you might want to ask the folks in California how they feel about it.
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tcmtech Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South of Minot North Dakota Posts: 8376 Good Answers: 775	#16 In reply to #11 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 6:25 PM
	Actually I have never once denied the climate is changing. Never have never will. It's changing just as it has always changed for whatever influences it has used for reasons to change. Nature is a dynamic entity not a static one thus it will continue to make adjustments any way the laws of physics dictate it to. We are all getting older and changing but are we changing due to natural aging process or is there another reason we are changing as we age and it just happens to create the effects we associate with natural aging and related changes? ? ? How do you tell and who do you blame and if you blame them what good will it do you being you will still change anyway?
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#18 In reply to #16 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 6:31 PM
	the culprit
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IdeaSmith Guru Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Out of your mind! Not in sight! Posts: 4424 Good Answers: 108	#21 In reply to #11 Re: NASA Sat Data 10/14/2015 5:11 AM
	Interactive Sea level rise checking tool. Have fun! Just click in the map. As it is expected there is not data for all areas. http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/interactive-sea-level-time-series-wizard?dlat=57&dlon=315&fit=s&smooth=b&days=60 __________________ Common Sense Dictates
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#12 In reply to #10 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 5:41 PM
	Florida will be 20 feet under water any day now
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WJMFIRE Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA, Florida Posts: 1595 Good Answers: 125	#13 In reply to #12 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 5:47 PM
	Don't tell me that...I just screened my back patio __________________ An obstacle is something you see when you take your eyes off the goal.
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lyn Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42355 Good Answers: 1693	#14 In reply to #13 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 5:52 PM
	Dig under your house (sand is soft) and put pontoons under it.
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#15 In reply to #13 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 6:11 PM
	they'll still get ya!
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Drew K Guru Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1651 Good Answers: 71	#20 In reply to #12 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/15/2015 7:56 AM
	Glad I bought a boat. Now does anyone have some money I can throw in this hole in the water? Drew K __________________ Question: What is going on with the American's Government? Response: Who is John Galt?
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Usbport Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor Posts: 5363 Good Answers: 647	#17 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 6:31 PM
	I am not a 'climate denier'. I know the climate has been changing, ever since the Earth first cooled following the collision with some large object that broke off the chunk that became the Moon. I'd even be willing to stipulate that mankind has contributed a small fraction to the warmth of the globe (even though the AGW proponents' climate models have failed and their predictions have been wildly inaccurate). I maintain though, (since I have a degree in astrophysics) that the the Sun is the primary driver of the Earth's climate, perhaps along with other cosmic phenomenon. Global geology is another major driver, responsible for volcanoes, ocean currents, etc. What I will not agree to is that we in the U.S. need to trash our economy just because some alarmist politicians and politically warped organizations want to demogogue the problem. Even if we stop burning coal and oil, the net effect to 'climate change' is vanishingly small. So screw 'em. These people always have the same answer to any crisis: Bigger government, more government control, higher taxes, and less individual freedom. Yet, this approach NEVER works and always makes the problem worse. So to re-iterate: screw 'em. __________________ Whiskey, women -- and astrophysics. Because sometimes a problem can't be solved with just whiskey and women.
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Fredski Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7025 Good Answers: 207	#19 In reply to #17 Re: NASA Sat Data 09/14/2015 6:35 PM
	couldn't have said it better cheers
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IdeaSmith Guru Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Out of your mind! Not in sight! Posts: 4424 Good Answers: 108	#22 Re: NASA Sat Data 10/14/2015 5:12 AM
	Its probably worth its own thread but here we go Check this out: http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/interactive-sea-level-time-series-wizard?dlat=57&dlon=315&fit=s&smooth=b&days=60 __________________ Common Sense Dictates
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