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VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 3:09 PM

Hi all

Had a cable fault on two cooling water tower fans today,~

Original fault was blown fuses, I meggered the cable @500v less than 1 ohm to earth.

I replaced the cable and removed the old cable, it was dry and brittle, with cracked insulation .

This cable supplies 400VAC to a VFD which in turn supplies the CWF motor. 22 KW~

I found this strange as the cable is 25mm 3 core + Earth flex cable.. and the same cable that supplied the motor from the VFD is in great shape...

I then checked the other cooling fan and found exactly the same problem, the cable suppling the VFD was brittle and dry, but the cable from the VFD to the motor was Ok..

Ãny ideas out there that could shed some light...

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 3:49 PM

Fuses blow to protect cables from overheating and starting a fire.

It sounds like your cables were too hot.

Find out why.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 4:11 PM

Sounds like the problem is the VFD. It probably has been drawing too much current for a long time. Don't just replace the cable, check the VFD. Start by measuring how much current it is drawing.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 5:06 PM

Would a line reactor help?

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 5:32 PM

A difference in cable insulation type and rating or because the cable conductor size is too small or borderline for the amperage it is carrying which is causing too much temperature rise resulting in cable insulation heat damage.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 7:14 PM

It sounds as though the cables are undersized. Have the installation checked out by a qualified Electrical Engineer, who will re-size the cables based upon local electrical codes and recommend replacement if necessary.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/04/2015 11:21 PM

You said..

Had a cable fault on two cooling water tower fans today,~

I'm guessing these towers are outside exposed to the elements.... how long they been installed?

You could be looking at natural (or un-natural) weathering of the cable that is not suited to outside use, (heat, sun, rain & cold??) or it needs extra protection against the weather.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/05/2015 1:54 AM

Hi,

Thanks for your answers.. but the cable is not undersized.. the current drawn by this VFD and motor is about 39 amps, a cable calculations indicate that a 10mm cable would be ok but recomend 16mm. I am using a 25mm cable.Cable run is about 90 meters. - not very long..

I was thinking about harmonics generated by the VFD, but I do not know mush about them. was looking for some advise.

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11/05/2015 4:22 AM

Harmonics.. you need a Power Quality analyzer. Try Fluke!

To overcome any harmonic output you MIGHT have.. and that could be dependent on type of VSD and the distance/length of cable between VSD and motor, could be of such a small value/distortion %, that a filter might not be worth buying.

Also Harmonics would have an adverse effect on the motor rather than on the cable, unless you have a splice or joint in that cable. Again the length of the cable has a bearing on this.

You need to speak to your VSD supplier and ask them.. they might be able to advise in regards to harmonic output and filters suitable for the VSD you have.

I still think your cable has weathered due to the climate conditions.. try not to overthink this!

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11/05/2015 3:18 PM

Are you sure that the insulation rating is compatible with the chemicals used in the cooling tower? It may be the water purification and hardness control chemicals are attacking the cable insulation.

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/06/2015 12:10 AM

90m is not short either.

What is the calculated voltage drop?

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/05/2015 7:46 AM

Is the voltage into the VFD the same as the voltage to the fans? A lower voltage means a higher current for the same amount of power.

Are the wires to the VFD enclosed where any heat generated is trapped?

Was the wiring to the fans replaced more recently than the wiring to the VFDs?

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Re: VFD Power Supply Cable Fault

11/08/2015 3:13 AM

You state the load side cables are fine but both line sides are deteriorated. Are the line cables in sunlight or have loose connections; are the load sides coated by minerals or sludge?

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