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What's this Tool?

03/20/2016 9:11 PM

I just dug out (it was buried under a tabletop mess) and used this tool today, for the first time in several years. Anyone know what it is, or is used for?

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03/20/2016 9:25 PM

Is it for shrinking ductwork?

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03/20/2016 9:28 PM

No, but it is used on something metal.

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03/20/2016 9:52 PM

Is it a wire bender?

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03/20/2016 10:01 PM

No, but you're getting warm.

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03/20/2016 10:03 PM

Crimper?

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03/20/2016 10:02 PM

Not a nibbler, but maybe a dimpler? The L shaped thing is adjustable for different thicknesses and the anvil moves up and down so.......................

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03/20/2016 10:21 PM

Vintage Morrills No. 1 Saw Set

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03/20/2016 10:56 PM

Since it is in bold, I assume you found a photo... Link Please! Also, please divulge how you found it...

The only text I can find on it is "Made in USA", on the inside of one handle. It is indeed a "Saw Set", but I have no idea of the brand or model, other than what you provided.

My bowsaw was making a very curved cut, and getting wedged in the cut. Once I reset the teeth, it works much better.

I inherited it from either my father, or grandfather, or both. Actually, it is amazing that I knew where to look for it... As I said, I haven't used it in years, but it still works!

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03/20/2016 11:26 PM

My father had one for his hand saws. He was a carpenter.

BTW, my father showed me that a sewing needle will slide smoothly down a properly set handsaw's teeth.

Welcome to Vintage Saw's Saw Filing Treatise

"It is possible, due to this effect, to actually slide a needle between the two rows."

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03/21/2016 12:08 AM

That needle thing is for crosscut saws only, where all the teeth are set. The saw I just set has two pairs of crosscut teeth followed by two rakers, so the needle doesn't work.

Thanks for the link!

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03/21/2016 4:36 AM

<...a sewing needle will slide smoothly down a properly set handsaw's teeth...> if it is cross-cut, yes. It won't if it is a rip saw, which is for cutting along the grain only. Most DIY Carpenters don't know the difference, because rip saws are rather less common, and using a rip to cut across the grain causes one incredible mess.

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03/21/2016 5:42 PM

Thanks for that, Lyn. My dad showed me that too. He showed me a lot of stuff like that.

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03/22/2016 8:26 AM

Great link!I always learn a lot from this site.

I never saw one like that.

The saw set that my great uncle (b-1867 d-1964) had was different..it would set multiple teeth at once.

I do not see one like that on line.

Wish I could find it now so I could show it to you guys.

Maybe it will turn up.

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03/22/2016 11:03 AM

Multiple teeth at once! That would probably make a more uniform cut. With this one, how much bend you get depends somewhat on how you hold (align) it, and possibly on how tight you squeeze. I would expect yours to have longer handles, possibly requiring both hands/arms to squeeze.

If you do come across it, please show it here.

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03/20/2016 11:36 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191822823595?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

Video tutorial on #4 Morrils set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFjbW5ZnSgU

Right click top picture...search google.....add search term ...vintage crimper....click on visually similar images....bingo, there it is...

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03/21/2016 12:18 AM

Thanks!

In your search, you already must have had an idea, to choose the words "vintage crimper"...

Although it is similar, the Morrils sets all appear to have somewhat longer handles. Looking through the eBay selections (your link, page 2), I think mine my be this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-saw-set-O-W-B-CO-NO-51-/131754445819?hash=item1ead2d4bfb

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03/21/2016 12:45 AM

...or perhaps a later copy....they all appear to be marked on the top of the lever side...

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03/21/2016 1:10 AM

You're right! I hadn't enlarged it to see that marking. There definitely is no such mark on mine. I don't know how old it is, but I do know it already looked old when I first saw it sometime in the early to mid '50s.

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03/22/2016 9:14 AM

Once you said it, everything clicked.

I had seen something similar on the PBS show The Woodwright's Shop, when they were talking about different saws and how they are maintained.

To 'set' the teeth on a saw is to twist the tooth slightly, alternating to the left and right on the cutting teeth so the saw cuts a groove slightly wider than the thickness of the saw blade. This is done to reduce the chance of the saw binding in the work, and for the more 'detail-intended' saws, it provides just enough room for the blade to twist, so that curves can be sawn in the wood.

(Sorry for the infodump, when things click, they click hard.

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03/22/2016 8:05 AM

It looks like it is used to form an angle,or V in the end of sheet metal;a tapered V deeper at one end than the other,perhaps for drainage,or a sap tap on a maple tree.

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03/22/2016 7:05 PM

Its a saw set, used for setting the offset in the teeth of a hand saw. dad used them all the time to re-set the teeth of His saws when he sharpened them and I have several of them.

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